NexPower V3 hybrid battery unveil - Sodium-ion battery

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by amarino, Jul 4, 2024.

  1. Bill Norton

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    Yikes, so instead of a proper BMS that is made for Li-Ion, it 'averages' modules...
    What about balancing the differences in cells, like a proper BMS?

    - Do Sodium packs need balancing?
    - Are there any current consumer items using Sodium cells?
    - What is the Self-Discharge Rate? That is important data for some. You don't want to come back to a bricked Prius after a 2 month vaca...

    Thanks for the informative reply!(y)

    I've always been an early adopter, driving EV since '14 and nothing but the most fuel efficient Gassers before that.
    I'm not replacing my original pack in my '10 Gen3 until it's begging for it.
    Not like the guy above swapping out many packs for no good reason, other than 'Research'.
    But I'm now aware of this Sodium chemistry. But not enough to do research. (n) I'll 'Wait and See'. :whistle:
     
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    I don't think that using lithium has to be an ethical issue. It can be recycled almost indefinitely, and lithium can be obtained ethically, unlike something like cobalt, currently.
     
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    Sadly, humans these days have been so disconnected with their planet's living systems that folks like yourself see no loss in destroying those living systems that our very lives depend on. Y'all have all kinds of silly ways to excuse any and all destruction of the planet simply because of a lack of education and information:

    There's huge ecosystems, especially rare plant communities threatened with extinction because of lithium mines! Every country in the world started targeting their lithium resources once the transition from fossil fuels to Electric battery storage got robust enough. And Sodium-Ion has the potential to destroy those investments before many of those ecosystems get destroyed.

     
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    An electrical engineer that blew the whistle on the soother scam and had direct experience creating custom lithium bms systems for Hondas had his expert posts erased from Priuschat by management.
     
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    mmmm wonder why that was.... :rolleyes::rolleyes::whistle::whistle:(y)
     
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    I don't remember anything quite so dramatic. I don't remember whether even some of his posts got deleted for one reason or another, but certainly the key ones are still around for anyone to review, and that was how we first were able to learn what the soother actually did.

    Anyone reviewing those threads will also see that part of the story was that he wasn't a very disciplined presenter. He gave the answer to "what does this soother thing do?" but only in the form of a 41-minute video where the technical details were all mixed in with his judgements on how good or bad an idea it was. Not that he wasn't qualified to offer judgements too, but if he had taken the time to write an outline first, it could have been a better-organized presentation where the commentary came after the tech details, and I wouldn't have had to write that "here's what I think you're saying it does, did I get that right?" post.

    His judgements that he mixed in with the details were objected to by some other members, who discovered they could bait him by going personal and he had trouble resisting that and keeping his head. The threads devolved into puerile names and belligerent legal posturing, and it was around then that the mods stepped in.

    The mods put a temporary (I'm remembering seven days?) posting ban on him, and not on the other members who had engaged in the baiting. That might have been a debatable choice, but it was what it was, and I don't remember much deleting of his posts or any further restriction on his posting beyond the temporary ban. He hasn't been around here much since, but that probably just goes more to the taste the whole experience left in his mouth.