First time preventative maintenance

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by avoice217, Dec 31, 2024.

  1. avoice217

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    Thanks for this info sir, but unfortunately my car didn't come with the manual. The gentleman that I purchased it from apparently purchased it from the same small business car place that he just bought another used car from. However, there's plenty of nice used manuals online from eBay, so I'm gonna get one of those. Also in reference to what you were talking about with the replacement spark plugs, I honestly have no idea where the previous owner even got the spark plugs from or even if he had the spark plugs replaced to begin with. If what you're saying is the case, then I'll probably just wait til next year to see about replacing them. Besides, I know that I have other areas that need attention for sure.
     
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    No one mentioned it, but you've got to do quite a bit of disassembly (windshield cowl/tray under the wipers) before you can even get to the sparkplugs.

    SM-G781V ?
     
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    You seemed to have missed the free and easier to use owners manual I pointed out.

    No one has a factory repair manual other than pieces captured as pdfs from Toyota's TIS site.

     
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    see video 13 here:

    Nutz About Bolts Prius Maintenance Videos | PriusChat

    ^ one quibble: he slathers plug threads with ant-sieze and advocates 20 ft lbs torque. Toyota Repair Manual says 15, and no mention of lube, so presumably clean/dry threads.

    yeah, an astounding amount of disassemble required, just because the coils bump the wiper cowl underside an inch or two before they can be extracted. Not Toyotas finest engineering.

    attached repair manual excerpt has spark plug info. Last page, with plug torque, is a thousand pages or so away from the rest. :rolleyes:

    Plug spec is shown in owners manual, except that spec has been superseded by Toyota, to a slightly hotter plug (“20” designation revised to “16”). I posted that updated Denso plug spec up the page, plus it’s Toyota part no (in post 14).

    you’ll need a 14 mm (or 9/16”) socket. If it’s got rubber inset to grip plug, I’d recommend to tape socket to extension securely, to avoid it pulling off after new plug install.
     

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    I won't invest on anything but oil change first on the first 1 year/5k miles and check if everything is fine, the car does not burn oil, and everything works. After that:
    1. Clean the EGR and intake manifolds, don't waste time too muchon trying to shining up the EGR cooler
    2. Change the engine coolant with genuine Toyota SLLC if it has not been replaced before
    3. Change the transmission fluid at the same time
    4. Change the spark plugs at 240k miles
    That's all, hopefully no problem before reaching no. 4.
     
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    One thing, the colloquial name "cooler" is not for naught: if it's purpose was solely to flow exhaust gasses, it wouldn't have the internal raidator. If that radiator has a patina of carbon, it may still have "sufficient" flow, but it's cooling ability is hampered. Several hour-long soaks with a concentrated solution of oxi-clean (or lye solution if oxi is inusufficent) can get it like-new clean, and restore it's cooling efficacy.

    For expeidience when doing EGR cleaning, get the EGR cooler soaking started first, then go onto cleaning of the EGR valve, the pipe twixt EGR valve and intake manifold, the intake manifold (pay special attention to the EGR passages at each port), and the intake ports on the head. Maybe set an hour timer for rinse-and-repeat of the EGR cooler.
     
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    I soaked the EGR cooler in a brake cleaner solution by plugging both side holes. I have a used cooler for spare and reduced down time. I also have used intake manifolds and EGR valves. It costs less than $100 but can reduce the down time by hours.
     
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    I tried about 12 hours of brake cleaner soak, then gave up on that. A water-based, caustic cleaner (Oxi or lye solution) is much better.
     
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    That's true,I don't see much difference after soaking it with brake cleaner. It remove sludge and oily things well. I think hard carbon deposit best cleaner is always hot steam water+dish soap.
     
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    Hey all so I've been watching videos on how to remove the EGR valve. So far only 1 video showed where you removed the windshield wipers as well as the motor. Should I really remove that or should I just focus on getting the other parts removed? Also there's been a couple of videos talking about the PITA bolt, but unfortunately nothing has really shown on how to remove it. I guess its really more a matter of just feeling around that area? Also I haven't seen any videos on using Oxi to clean the EGR valve yet.

    Also I'm totally down cleaning the intake manifold along with the throttle body (I honestly love where the position for this is).
     
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    Removing the wiper assembly is the easy part and certainly changes an impossible egr cooler removal job to simply ridiculous.

    You have to know how to remove it to get to the spark plugs as well. Might want to simply pull the plugs and inspect while you are bloody and greasy anyway.

    I have been trying to get our egr fanatic and parts illustrator for a living guy Mendel to whip up some decent exploded views with tools.
     
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    You are not going to get to the cooler with the wiper assembly still in place.
    Just duck-duck-go search for spark plug removal on the Prius and they will show you
    how to remove it. Fairely simple and quick. A lot of bolts, that's all.
    Getting the wire harness plastic holders out is the biggest pain.
    Mark with painters tape where the wiper blades are before removing them so you know
    where to reinstall them.
    That bolt is NOT that hard to do if you have a small 1/4 inch ratchet.
    oxi will take forever to work and multiple water changes to get it clean.
    Pressure washer and oven clean is the best way to clean it.

     
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    @Raytheeagle said he did one EGR cleaning without wiper/cowl removal, resolved to not go that route again.

    @rjparker im not sure a blow-by-blow narrative would be helpful. It’s somewhat akin to reading a completely typed out speech word-for-word, versus just referring to cue cards. The latter is better I think.
     
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    Some challenges aren't required to repeat;).

    Wiper Cowling removal is easy enough:).

    Clean the cooler(y).
     
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    Hey all, so I wanted to ask about 2 things. First off, now I have the maintenance required screen on, but here's the unique about that. According to the young man I bought the car from, he actually took it to get an oil change done off the regular cycle of the computer. So my question is, should I go ahead and just do my own oil change to go along with the car's system? I did check the dipstick and there's plenty of oil in it.

    Also, I was driving earlier today & the temperature has stayed in the high 30's. As a result, I tried to run the rear defroster and it doesn't seem to be working. The only 2 things I can think of is that its possible that a rat may have chewed through the wires towards the defroster back there and maybe there's a possible fuse blown that goes towards there as well. On the later, I am just guessing at this since I honestly don't know if there is one to begin with. Anyways, open to ideas on what I should check here.
     
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    If the oil change was recent then just reset the maintenance light. It will come back as a temporary alert 4500 miles later and will stay on at 5000 miles.

    Oil changes are not to ensure there is plenty of oil. They are to ensure your engine has the lubrication and cleaning benefits of new oil while removing contaminates circulating in the old oil or captured by the filter.

    If the oil level goes down between changes (certainly if it's close to the low dipstick mark), you should add oil (top it off). These engines usually don't burn any observable oil when their miles are under 125k but are known oil burners at higher miles. Sometimes so bad they could burn ALL the oil in 5,000 miles.
     
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    Does the oil look clean? Hopefully, they actually DID the oil change.
    If you are not sure, or aren't comfortable about it, change the oil and filter.
    Then set the trip meter to "A", shut the car off, press and hold the mph/kph button
    to the left of the radio and press the START button twice. You don't have to hold the
    brake pedal for this. The display will say it's resetting and after about 5 seconds it
    will say it's reset.

    ??? The rear window defogger will not heat the car. It will only heat the window up to
    clear it. There are more than 2 things that could be wrong. But the easiest thing to do
    is to actually CHECK the fuse. :whistle:(y)
    If it is blown, you can replace it with a fuse of the correct size. If it blows again, quickly,
    then something is shorted. If it still doesn't work, perhaps the wires could be chewed,
    or burnt, or broken. You can use a volt meter and see if you get 12 volts at the terminals.
    Of course one of the elements could be broken.