Prius heater not getting hot enough!

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  1. rjparker

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    If you are measuring correctly (?) something is seriously wrong. Normally they will be around 185-200f the same as the two coolant temp sensors. The bottom radiator hose supplying the thermostat may be 10-15f less than the engine operating temp.

    The smaller reservoir hoses are at engine operating temp and are visibly flowing through the reservoir when the engine is warmed up.

    To emphasize how wrong 55-60f is on the four radiator lines, my v has been off for over 3.5 hours and those lines are still 92-95f as is the reservoir.
     
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    I just drove it again a bit harder uphill and the hoses read between 100-110 degrees while the coolant reservoir was reading 98 degrees my bad I guess i didnt drive it hard enough to bring it hotter
     
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    Perhaps you didn't drive it enough for the thermostat to open?

     
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    In post #54, you said that you were buying a new Toyota OEM water pump. Is that what you just installed?

    Sorry I did not see your post #28, if I had, I would have responded to you.
     
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    If I remember correctly, the Gen 3 has a heat exchanger inside the exhaust, where the coolant lines run in a loop to rapidly heat the coolant to save on fuel while heating up the interior. In order to prevent the coolant from boiling away and over-pressuring the coolant system, there is a thermostatically controlled gate which diverts the exhaust once the coolant has reached a certain temperature. Yours may have malfunctioned.
     
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    It is unlikely that a stuck exhaust heat recirc valve would overheat the engine but a clogged radiator, bad water pump or improperly operating engine thermostat could.

    The exhaust heat recirc system has a coolant temperature sensor that can be monitored with many apps including the "Car Scanner" app below. If the recirc system does not reduce its heat exchange as designed the left recirc sensor will be higher than the engine sensor.

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    The exhaust heat recirc system primarily adds heat to a small diameter, low flow coolant loop flowing through the heater, egr cooler, exhaust heat recirc, throttle body and the thermostat bypass port. This low flow loop allows some coolant flow.

    During initial warmup the engine thermostat is closed and the big radiator hoses and the radiator are blocked.

    So we have warm up flow from the water pump through the engine, to the heater, split from the heater out to the egr cooler AND to the exhaust recirc system. The split flows are combined again at the egr cooler output and return to the thermostat via the thermostat bypass port. A small portion of this flow is diverted to the throttle body to warm it up and returns to the thermostat bypass port.

    As long as the thermostat is closed almost no flow goes through the radiator or coolant reservoir loop. If the thermostat does not open or the radiator is clogged it overheats the engine once it warms up.
     
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    After flushing the radiator and blowing air through it, installing new toyota water pump all seems to work well! Thank you for your help i will check the readings using the "car scanner" app do i need a specific obd2 reader for that to connect to my phone?

    Thank you!!
     
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    I was driving up a hill high revving for about 10 seconds and the red temp light came on for a few seconds then turned off. I pulled over and noticed there was coolant that splashed around the reservoir tank. Is this something to be concerned about? Heater works great and everything seems to flow as it should. I drove it for about another 30 minutes no problem coolant level is good oil level is good just overheated going up a big hill at high rpm


    I was worried if this shows I still have a clogged heater core or radiator?
     
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    Yes you still have the original problems, combustion gasses pushing into the coolant and a cold radiator output hose to the thermostat. A flush fixes the first for a week or so and cold weather is usually keeping the 190f coolant below the 248f required to link your temperature lights.

    Go back to the Christmas post here.
     
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    I just re read the post you linked to me. The difference is i cant hear air in system, the radiator hose is hot now that we changed the water pump. How can i narrow down the problem to a clogged radiator vs a clogged heater core or something else?
     
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    clogged heater core won't cause engine overheating and will never provide cabin heat
     
    #71 rjparker, Jan 9, 2025 at 12:24 AM
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