Well, our 2011 Winter Gray Metallic Prius level 3 has given us 138K pretty much trouble free miles, and we have decided to move on to something new before serious problems start coming up (water pump, head gasket, brake booster, hybrid battery, etc.). Today, we put a deposit down on a 2025 Toyota Crown Signia (hatchback) hybrid XLE AWD in Oxygen White. This vehicle, according to our salesperson, replaced the Toyota Venza hybrid that Toyota brought back briefly. It's a very nice vehicle, the main drawback for me is it doesn't come with a spare wheel/tire, it comes with a tire kit. I'm going to check out under the rear cargo area after delivery to see if there is any way to carry a spare wheel/tire.
I tried the crown signia and I find the Venza to be a more comfortable and versatile vehicle. The seating position for the front passenger is quite strange on the crown, the floor space seems very shallow and your knees are positioned higher than normal when seated. I think if you can find a Venza, that would be a nicer and cheaper vehicle to own. Some dealerships still selling the Venza in their inventory. And the bonus, it has a spare tire. Have you sold the prius?
No 2024 Venzas available, except a Nightshade edition. We don't want to deal with a black car. We are going to look up the Kelly blue book price for the Prius, but we are also thinking about donating the car and taking the tax credit. SM-G781V ?
Nightshade edition doesn't mean it's a black car, it means it has black accents. I think they have that available for the white, black, and red varieties. IMO the Crown is not a replacement for the Venza. They are 2 different vehicles. The crown is more a wagon, that's longer in length and doesn't provide as much grown clearance. Some may like this type of set up though. I was set on buying a new Crown for my wife, but after seeing it and sitting in it, I feel the Venza is still the better choice. The Venza is pretty much a low volume Lexus that has a Toyota badge. Selling only about 3000 a month, doesn't really do much for Toyota.
Actually, the Nightshade for sale was black, with just under 10K on the odometer. Selling for over $41K. Yes, the Crown Signia is like a long wagon. Lower ground clearance than a crossover. Even the windows have minimal factory tint on the rear windows, not the dark tint found on utility vehicles like the 4Runner, etc. Toyota classifies the Crown Signia as a sedan/wagon not a utility vehicle. Toyota discontinued the Venza again, 2024 was the last model year. SM-G781V ?
congrats! one of toyotas best looking new designs imo. please let us know your thoughts after you get it. all the best!
The Crown hatchback is a very nice vehicle with Lexus sound proofing and interior quality. I looked at one a couple of weeks ago but was put off by its $52k msrp. I am going to wait for the new design Rav4 Prime in 2026.
I see from this thread you cleaned the EGR back in 2021. With that done, I'd sit tight, maybe clean it a again in a bit. You'll have a spare, roomy interior, readily available and sensible tire sizes; what's not to like.
Toyota release Toyota Crown Station Wagon (long SUV) version that is more versatile. Almost like Camry station wagon that is very practical but a bit lifted as a SUV. I now drive Auris/Corolla 3rd gen hybrid station wagon. It is very practical, I can carry 2m long item when the rear seats folded. Toyota Launches All-New Crown in Japan | Toyota | Global Newsroom | Toyota Motor Corporation Official Global Website
Still waiting on delivery of the Crown Signia, and I've been reading a bit of the owners manual I downloaded. The recommended oil viscosity on the 2.5L Atkinson engine is... 0w-8!!! Jeez, I thought 0w-20 was thin, and 0w-16 was getting ridiculous, but wow. SM-G781V ?
Maybe just stick with 0W20. The ultra thin oil may be spec'd largely to scrape another 1/10 of a mpg brownie points. Remember the 3rd gen low-tension piston rings, similar story.
I moved on from my 2012, mainly because I was afraid of expensive repairs ahead. My worries may have been unfounded, but I'm glad I got my 2024 Prius Prime. It exceeds the Gen 3 in nearly every way imaginable.
Here in Hawaii, we have to deal with a "middleman", namely Servco, who has exclusive sales rights on Toyota, Lexus, and Subaru vehicles. Unfortunately, as exclusive dealers, they rarely sell vehicles under MSRP, and all of their parts are marked up about 33% as well. They know that shipping costs from the mainland US will be expensive, so they get away with ripping us off. So, IMO it would be pointless to post the "deal or OTD price paid" on our vehicle in a public forum. SM-G781V ?
Yes, we were in a similar situation with our 2011 Prius hatchback. We wanted to move on to something else before major repairs started to become necessary. SM-G781V ?
