Put $4,000 into 2007 Prius or spring for 2025 Honda CRV Hybrid?

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  1. treen333

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    Hi All,

    Thanks in advance for any insight you can give me! My wife has a 2007 Prius, we've had it the entire time and have taken good care of it. The hybrid battery finally died at 200k miles. Toyota told us it would be 2800 for the battery replacement and installation (not interested in an aftermarket battery that would be questionable over time). They also did an inspection on the car so it would help inform our decision. It needs an engine water pump for $450, and then the tires need to be replaced - we usually get Conti's at Discount tire for about $500. So all in all about $4,000 to get it back on the road. They also noted a small crack in the hybrid case on the transmission. It is not, and has not been leaking anything on the ground. Probably such a small leak you can't notice it. The mechanic working on the car said they couldn't make any promises but said the car may be good on that transmission for 50k-100k miles, just top off the fluid once a year. We are not car people but we know the basics. I'd normally say no to putting 4k into an 18 year old car, but the new, and newer used car space as you all know is insane. Side note, I have a 2009 Prius at 225k miles and doing well, no issues. As many of you know, these cars are members of the family.

    We did a ton of test driving RAV4 Hybrid, Subaru Crosstrek/Forester, Honda CRV-Hybrid. We liked the Honda the most by far. It is a beautiful vehicle in and out, and drives very nicely. We wanted to get a bit bigger of a car for the next one, we usually have two dogs and spend half the year in Arizona, and the other half in the Pacific Northwest or Canada. So we do have some serious driving in there. My wife worked out a decent deal at 37.5k for a Honda CRV Sport - L Hybrid. We have been going back and forth for weeks on what is the best decision. There is so much uncertainty with Trump coming in, inflation, tariffs, new and used car markets correcting, or just continuing to go up. It seems like a really tough call to us. Roll the dice with the 4k into the Prius? If we put in the 4k now to the Prius, will we just be kicking ourselves later because car prices new and used will just be higher and we should just rip off the band aid now. Or will prices come back down? Which seems unlikely given the world we live in. We are not the type that just goes out and buys a new car (we always maintain things and tape together as well when needed), but we wonder if the new/used car climate, and repair costs of the Prius just make it a safer bet to go with the new Honda, and even over time, a better financial decision if new cars hold (especially CRV's and RAV4 type hybrids) their value the way they have been. We would plan to hold the car for a very long time, but we obviously factor in resale in our decision making if we needed to sell the vehicle. Oh, quick side note, If we did get the new hybrid battery from Toyota and in the near future my wife decided to get something else, I could just put her new hybrid battery in my 2009 Prius. I plan on keeping it as long as I can. Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I'd love any insight from the great and informed people on this site. Happy Holidays!
     
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    Lot of funny business with the CRVs always have been so you know their engines tend to fail and things happen that's not really Prius mileage to be honest or Toyota mileage so there's always that You have an '09 that still doing very well or what have you I don't know if I would sink 4,000 into the whatever year you're saying this is 0507 you buy another whole car and pretty doggone good shape for that kind of money $500 more will get you $130,000 mi pretty good shape generation 2 Prius in the Southeast United States granted that's not where you are but fly down pick it up and go on but I tell you in the three that I have I would give serious consideration to spending $4,000 to fix one versus 34,000 to buy a CRV at my 67-year-old age at this point I wouldn't even entertain the CRV The CRV won't make it until I die I guarantee you that The Prius all three of them have way better chances and I have stuff to keep them and fix them and anybody who's paying $450 for a $45 water pump on a generation 2 Prius I feel bad for you your life must be very good and you have many things to do that don't involve a vehicle and that's a wonderful thing but that's highway robbery that's a 55-minute job and a $48 part and so on and so forth I'm sure you're looking at the Toyota part brand new for $239 or something but those mechanical water pumps like that they cost nothing
     
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    I don't know your (OP) full story.
    At 200K mileage I would be hesitant to spend $4K.
    Noting what is the current car's valuation, plus, is $4K just the beginning of repairs?)
    But with a new car, at least in California, the DMV and Insurance could be near $4K in two years.

    My vote is: None of the options.

    My vote, as to me Toyota is the hybrid leader, is a Rav4 SUV.

    Good luck with your decision :)
     
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    The only thing that worries me about this particular car you're talking about here is the crack on the transaxle which is probably just a casting mark that they're trying to scare you with but I can't see from here nothing's leaking out of it is probably not a crack it's probably a casting mark Very common and aluminum but like I say at $450 for a mechanical water pump light goes on an old Corolla rear wheel drive of the '70s and '80s seriously that's a 25-minute job on a bad day and dump coolant and start driving but oh well I wish I could get them for $450 about two or three a week and I couldn't charge a person that and stand face-to-face I guess I could if I had a bunch of overhead to pay signage snap-on tools big tool boxes with dressers on the end of them cars with vehicle wraps and four employees I guess I could make myself but the way I work there's no way that's just a joke or a good joke We would have a good laugh and the guy would pay maybe $125 or something and supply the part
     
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    I was very interested in the Honda CRV Hybrid, till I found out it doesn't have a spare. Which is too dang bad; we've had a string of Hondas over the years.
     

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    If this was my money, I'd stick with the gen2. Everything you've mentioned are standard wear-out items that should've been budgeted for. Now your talking about spending 37.5K plus taxes, increase regs fees and insurance. If you want a larger newer car fine. I see cars as basic transportation and wouldn't be able to justify $37.5K out of pocket along with the higher expenses.
    As far as the tranny, it's pretty much bullet-proof and a used one is readily available, if yours should blow-up. Probably another 2K max, so we're up to 6K. The math don't lie....
    Honda CRV hybrids are assembled here in the USA, so tariff issues should be minimal at best. But who knows, since Elon has Trumps ear - he may band everything except Teslaso_O:p:D:LOL::ROFLMAO::love:
    Also forgot to talk about the Honda distance sensors being stolen - $800-$1500 replacement cost. Easier than a CAT thief.
     
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    If you do long distance driving I would want a newer car with warranty. You get stuck a thousand miles from home and you will get the shaft at the only place that can fix a Prius, the closest Toyota dealer.

    If it's your wife stranded by herself it's even worse.
     
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    problem is you rely on stealership for repairs that's why it cost so much.

    the Honda hybrid (older generation) is not that great compared to Toyota's synergy drive.. Toyota's eCVT could last longer than the car itself, while Honda just started using eCVT so reliability is not yet known.
     
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    idk anything about the crv, but i'd go new or much newer over the 07
     
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    If you are planning on driving much in Canada, be sure you can change the units for the speedometer. I replaced my 2017 Prius with a 2025 Camry but I am not hauling around dogs. My son really enjoys hos 2023 RAV4 Prime SXE when he travels with his small dogs.His car has remote start so he is able to keep his crated dogs in the car with AC running in the summer when at outdoor dog agility matches.
     
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    Fix the PRIUS
     
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    I say get all that work done for way less than $4K.

    -- Buy tires online and find someone to mount and balance them on the cheap by bringing just the wheels and tires in to save money.

    -- A new OEM pack can often be found for $1900 once you get your deposit back and its a very easy nuts and bolts swap that takes 2 hours DIY style

    -- Water pump replacement is a $50 part and a few hours work. Very easy job as far as water pumps go.

    If you aren't good at car work, find a friend of family member who is and this website can answer any question they may have. You still have plenty more life in your Prius left, but spending $4K on easy repairs is not wise. You could buy a used Gen2 Prius for that price.
     
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    Thanks to all who have replied so far! I appreciate your advice and candor. I forgot to mention that they also said we need new struts front and rear. I need those in my 09 Prius as well, but I'm assuming that is normal. Do they have to be replaced, or can I just ride these crappy ones for the duration? We are obviously used to the bumpy ride at this point and are fine with it.
    I watched a YouTube video on replacing the hybrid battery, and I could do it, but Toyota told me that it voids the 3 year warranty on the OEM part if I do it myself. So basically I'd be paying about 800 for warranty, and 2000 for the OEM battery. Even regular mechanics around here (Sedona/Flagstaff AZ) are quoting me even more than $450 do change the water pump. Is that something I could watch a YouTube video on? I could do a search. Oh, and sidenote, not that it may make a huge difference in advice, but my wife, who is a pretty good negotiator, got a 2025 CRV Hybrid-L which typically would be about 41k or more OTD, down to a 37.5k OTD price. So the 4,000 in taxes/licensing/registration she pretty much got for "free"...It's obviously not free, but you know what I'm saying, if looking at the whole deal.
     
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    If you don't mind the poor ride quality, you can just put it off.
    If you hit a bump in the road and the car gets squirrely, well you'll have to replace them from a safety standpoint. You must be able to control your car at all times.
    Again, this is another wear-out item. Any car that has 200K+ miles on her is going to need the struts replaced.
     
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    I can't think of any 2007 car I'd readily put $4k into.
     
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    It just occurred to me that if we are in Canada for six months and the car dies for some reason, or needs so much more money and it's not worth putting it into it, we'll have to get a new car up there. I just looked up all the hoops you have to jump through to get a new or used car back into the US after purchase and it seems like a huge pain in the nice person with all sorts of documents and fees. That makes another argument for getting a new one now.
     
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    and you always believe what the stealerships tell you.

    my friends who does their oil changes in stealerships always has this recommendations and I'll tell them that's all baloney (skip it!).. The Prius is not a luxury car that a bad strut will make it not rideable (even with a good strut it still drives like a cheapo car) Unless you see it leaking or eating your tires then it's worth fixing it. As long as you understand what you're doing electrically, replacing the hv battery is not that complicated in a Prius.. The water pump can also be DIY cheaply without special tools and for less than $100 DIY (add the coolant cost) The whole $4k is a stealership estimate, it's even cheaper in an independent shop without the unnecessary repairs.. sounds like you're itching for a new car which makes this whole discussion moot.
     
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    A new car makes sense if bottom line financial is not the driving factor.
     
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    First off, is the water pump for the inverter or engine? I know you typed engine but maybe not everyone paid attention.
    Most if not all of the forum members do their own maintenance or have a trusted independent shop. Taking a 15+ year old car with 200K miles to a dealership has the service manager salivating at how many items they can put on the bill. They want everything to be in "off the showroom floor" condition when it is in the shop. When selling a used car the opposite is true, but that is another thread topic.
    You could go low bucks, get a rebuilt battery pack and go to a costco or such for cheaper tires and struts then find a mechanic to do the pump. I would bet then you would have a car good for another 50K miles for less than half the dealer price.
    But the prius served you well, and walking away to buy a new car is also a good choice. You obviously keep a car for a long time which reflects attention to maintenance so whatever you buy will probably last as long as the prius. Financially buying a new car can make sense if you keep it for the entire lifespan, that is 200 - 300K miles. There are some here who will proudly run a 300K mile POS put in used parts and do all the work themselves. They always win on the cheapest cost per mile. But that is not all of us and some don't want to take that path.