OEM spare tire install

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  1. Hammersmith

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    Nope. Once the tire is installed, the tallest part of the sidewall of the tire is right at the level of the foam.
     
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    Ok, so I went through and measured the original foam.

    The two "rear" pieces (nearest the trunk opening) are 6cm square by 3cm thick. The two "front" pieces are 5cm square by 2cm thick.

    The two rear (larger) pieces are placed at 46-52cm and 28-34cm from the near side, and 22-28cm from the seam. The two (small) pieces line up with the outer edges (52cm and 28cm from the near side) and are 4-9cm from the seam

    This all will make more sense if you look at the pictures.

    I cut some chunks of about the right size from the original foam blocks, and wrapped them in duct tape because they were really messy. I stuck them on with rolled-up tape; once the tire and wheel are in, the compression will keep them in place.

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    I used filet knife, and the cutting was very neat. Thanks for sharing, please post pictures when you are done.
     
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    Looking at that photo, and looking back at @Hammersmith 's posts on the first couple of pages, bemoaning the waste of money on the order, I think the part number for that deck board should have been a clue - "58410-47040-C1". That's not a proper part number is it? That's just the same part with some bits stuck on. :D
     
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    White XLE. You might see it on the way to Pelican Harbor. Not as flashy as some of the other colors; we always go for a "cool" color. When it's 85-90+ outside and the car has been sitting, it can be 30-40F cooler inside at start compared to a black, blue, green car or darker. Red is a medium hot color. I did see one on the lot at Toyota of Naperville, it was very sharp looking, great curb appeal.
     
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    We just bought a 2024 Limited AWD that we want to use for touring, so we wanted a real spare. I bought the requisite parts as listed at the beginning of the thread, and they all fit fine. The cargo floor was definitely less supported, though, and I didn't want to spend $250ish on the LE floor, not even knowing if it would really work and fit as I wanted.

    Instead, I chose to reinforce the area over the spare tire, especially the center of the rim. After taking some measurements, it looked like a 1/2" thick board would work and be just right for the area further forward (towards car front) than the spare, while 3/4" looked right for the area from the center of the spare backward (towards the back of the car).

    So I bought some stuff and built the ugly monstrosity you see in the photos.

    Parts list:
    • 1' x 2' 1/2" thick board—something strong and light.
    • Everbilt 4-1/4 in. x 5 in. Black Self-Adhesive Rubber Bumper Pad Sheets
    • Everbilt Heavy Duty Felt Pads
    The board was $9, the rubber pads were $20, and we had the felt pads at home. Not cheap, but much better than $250.

    I (very quickly and poorly) rounded the corners, then half-rounded the edges with a router and sanded everything smooth. I put it in place, and set the felt pads on the center line, and taped the rubber pads on the back.

    Did a bunch of test fitting with the felt pads and determined that stacking two up worked very well in front (i.e. further back in the car) of the center line. There are no pads behind the center line, as the board is the right height there. I also cut pads to fit the styrofoam on the edges at the center line, which seemed to help the floor sit more solidly. (You can see a couple of these on the right of the photo showing the piece in place in the car.)

    Once I was happy with how things fit, I stuck all the rubber matting and felt pads in place.

    With the floor board down and the rubber cargo mat in place, the floor is now solid again, as it was before we did the spare tire install. I am *definitely* not saying this is the best solution, the easiest solution, the cheapest solution, or maybe even a good solution. It's definitely not the best-looking solution.

    But it's working for me, so maybe it'll give someone else some ideas.
     
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    We just bought a 2024 Limited AWD that we want to use for touring, and we wanted the spare. I bought the requisite parts as listed at the beginning of the thread, and they all fit fine. The floor was definitely less supported, though, and I didn't want to send $250ish on the LE floor, not even knowing if it would really work and fit as I wanted.

    Instead, I just chose to reinforce the area over the spare tire, especially the center. After taking some measurements, it looked like a 1/2" thick board would work and be just right for the area further forward than the spare, while 3/4" looked right for the area from the center of the spare forward.

    So I bought some stuff and built the ugly monstrosity you see in the photos.

    Parts list:
    • 1' x 2' 1/2" thick board—something strong and light.
    • Everbilt 4-1/4 in. x 5 in. Black Self-Adhesive Rubber Bumper Pad Sheets
    • Everbilt Heavy Duty Felt Pads
    The board was $9, the rubber pads were $20, and we had the felt pads at home. Not cheap, but much better than $250.

    I (very quickly and poorly) rounded the corners, then rounded-over the edges on both sides and sanded to keep the fingers splinter-free. After test fitting, I attached the rubber pads to the back, where the board would contact the rim itself. On the front, a single-height row of felt sliders is along the centerline where the floor folds.

    Below that (closer to the back of the car) are double-stacked furniture sliders—these cover the gap which, in my car at least, is 3/4" at the back of the bar but only about 1/2" further forwards.

    [My post was truncated, not sure what happened.]

    This is definitely not the cleanest, simplest, cheapest, or best looking floor fix, but it's working well for me.

     
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    Has anyone had personal experience with fitting the tool kit for XLE AWD? Box set 09105-47030 $342 comes with a bag. Is the bag adding $150 to the price or maybe it has additional items.

    I called a Toyota dealership that offers 30% online but they couldn’t tell me. He said he couldn’t even verify that the spare tire kit parts would fit a 2024 XLE AWD and then added that their website is a 3rd party website and that the part numbers don’t always coincide. When I read off the part numbers to him he had different names for the parts. I’m so frustrated. I might have to pay full price because I can’t order them unless I know for sure I’m getting the right parts.

    The list I have is exactly the list provided here except I also have part 64726-10020-C2. Clip, lugg?
     
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    Toyota should be reading this whole #$*7@ thread...
     
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    Get 09105-47020 and save the money. There's no value to getting the bigger bag, especially if you're doing the whole conversion. You'll just toss it in a corner of your garage or house and never use it again.

    And you don't need the clips because you'll already have them. You'll reuse the ones already in the car.
     
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    Thank you! I have zero storage space for a bag I don’t need.
     
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    FYI, 09105-47020 comes with a smaller bag for the lug wrench and jack handle that you can keep or throw away. The only reason to get it is because 09105-47020 is actually cheaper than the kit that comes without any bag. I don't understand it either. The only thing I can think of is that maybe 09105-47020 is used in many more cars so there's a sort of "special order tax" on the others.
     
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    That makes sense. I just called my local Toyota dealership and they are now saying that the part numbers for the Box, Deck board for the XLE AWD are different from what’s listed here. Their order system is stating 64997-47130 for left and 64995-47110 for right instead of 64997-47100/64995-47080 and they are more expensive. Any ideas on this? I have a couple of weeks before ordering but I need to be sure before I order especially if it’s an online order.

    I still don’t understand why a car with 19” wheels can use the same spare wheel/tire size as a car with 17” wheels.

    Thank you!
     
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    First question:
    Think about it for a moment. The XLE comes with a couple boxes already under the cargo floor. You contact the parts department and ask them the part numbers to replace them(or you give them the part numbers I gave you). They enter the car info into their software. What part numbers do you think the computer is going to give them? The ones that are already in the car from the factory.

    But you don't want the ones that come with the car from the factory, you want the different ones that allow for the spare tire. So of course the part numbers are going to be different. If you order the part numbers they gave you, you're going to end up with two pairs of identical boxes; one set in the car and one set from the parts department. You want two different sets of boxes. One set in the car that you're going to remove, and a different set that's going to replace them.

    Second question:
    Think about a wheel/tire for a moment. You've got the metal wheel in the middle, and the rubber tire that surrounds it. The wheel has a diameter. The tire has a height. If you make the wheel smaller but make the tire taller at the same time, the total height doesn't change.

    Wheel/Tire #1:
    4" tire height (top)
    19" wheel diameter = 27" total height (19+4+4)
    4" tire height (bottom)

    Wheel/Tire #2:
    5" tire height
    17" wheel diameter = 27" total height (17+5+5)
    5" tire height

    Spare Tire:
    5.5" tire height
    16" wheel diameter = 27" total height (16+5.5+5.5)
    5.5" tire height

    (numbers are rounded to make the point easier to understand)
     
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    The cars are more-or-less the same. When they come up with two tire size options, they try to keep the outside diameters roughly the same, though with gen 5 the variation is a bit more than previous gens, with the 19" slightly larger diameter (gen 3 and 4 it was the opposite). The temp spare OD is also roughly the same I would think.

    Hammersmith nailed it in more detail, while I was typing. :)
     
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    Thank you for taking the time to explain the details on the spare tire dimensions.

    Please think about this. I told the parts department I was putting together a spare tire kit for a 2024 XLE AWD. I gave him the part numbers and everything matched up until it came to the foam pieces that surround the spare tire. He knew I was looking for the foam pieces that surround the spare tire. He told me the part numbers had changed and even told me the new part numbers were titled “ Protector - spare wheel carrier”. Why would it cross my mind that this might be the part numbers for the original factory installed foam when the XLE AWD doesn’t come with a spare wheel?
     
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    Hammersmith FTW!
    We owe you some beers
     
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    Because he's not reading the parts catalogue correctly?

    These are the part numbers for the different foam boxes and what they are for. You're free to order whichever version the parts guy says, just don't be surprised when they're the wrong ones. I'm getting my info from the exact software he's using. (MicroCat)

    Left Side
    64997-47100 spare tire version
    64997-47120 shallow version for LE
    64997-47130 deep version for XLE/LTD
    64997-47140 PHEV version

    Right Side
    64995-47080 spare tire version
    64995-47100 shallow version for LE
    64995-47110 deep version for XLE/LTD
    64995-47120 PHEV without solar roof
    64995-47130 PHEV with solar roof


    And the part labeled "Protector, Spare Wheel Carrier" is a different part altogether. That name is used for the metal bracket that goes over the AWD HV power connector.
     
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    I don’t have access to MicroCat or the ability to look over the parts department staff’s shoulder to be sure he’s reading the catalog properly. The goal is to NOT order the wrong parts. Both dealerships said the part numbers for these foam pieces were wrong. I now have confirmation that the part numbers have not changed. Thank you.
     
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