Be ready for the new coming value added tax

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  1. Mr.Vanvandenburg

    Mr.Vanvandenburg Senior Member

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    Guard rails are still on, imho. Founding documents and amendments to them. he won’t like it when they tell him about them, too bad.
     
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    Another question might be, supposing none of that happens and they aren't removed, and the 22nd is still there saying more than two terms will not happen, which person(s) in which branch(es) of the government will be the one(s) to stand up and say "yes, it is my responsibility to have that not happen" if the pres and the party national committee decide to run the play?

    Article I section 9 says it won't happen that any officeholder accepts any foreign emolument without Congress's consent. Which person(s) in which branch(es) had responsibility to step up and have that not happen?

    Amendment XIV section 3 says it won't happen that anyone becomes a member of congress or holds any civil or military office (among other things) after having engaged in, or aided/comforted, insurrection or rebellion against the constitution while under oath to it. Which person(s) in which branch(es) had responsibility to step up and have that not happen?

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    That recent civics and government education has put a sobering light on the ability of words on a page to enforce themselves if no one is found to be responsible for them.
     
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    For sure those like Amend 14 section 3 weren’t upheld. The Jan 20 swearing in is locked in stone though. There is no person who gets to decide any changes to those specific words.

    he will be too old by then for another term, but still get his jollies by endorsing someone who will do as he says as long as he is alive. This loyalty thing is evident, the voters for him are completely locked into the cult. If the other side is degraded constantly it peels enough voters away. Like they did to Biden, who never did any of the wrong things they claimed. But it causes disloyalty by the drum beat of repetition.
     
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    Georgina Rudkus Senior Member

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    It's death and taxes according to Richard Saunders that cannot be avoided.


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    In Trumps first term, he tried a number of unconstitutional acts. For the most part, his cabinet advised him that he can't do those things.
    Many were fired or quit. This time around, Trump is filling important positions with people loyal to him, and not the constitution.

    The guardrails are still there, but they are being significantly weakened.
     
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    he also has a loaded court
     
  7. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Oh?
    They're heavy drinkers?
    I thought that was just that just a Judge Brett thing.

    Not sure I'd want to see Roberts or Sotomayor tie one on......
     
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    Who would want the maaga believers doxxing their homes or following their families around, with threats? This is Russia and NK style control, not our USA, not yet. It definitely is his style, he doesn’t hide it, promotes it openly.
    A giant violence prone bully was selected to be a president of the USA. Silver lining is he is incompetent and has no intellect to do the job. Based on his first term. It could break the plans he has.
     
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    i can't discount the intelligence of someone who wins the presidency twice
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    As if that was all him achieving it.
     
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    agreed, as is the case with most things
     
  12. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    P45 tried awfully hard to lose.

    His opponents merely tried harder.
    A LOT harder!!!!

    I'm seeing MORE p45 signs and banners than I ever did before the election.........and the hits, as they say just keep on coming!!!!
     
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    Loyalty above all. It didn’t take intelligence, it’s his life from decades of demanding loyalty or you are attacked and out. Preferably your life is ruined if you say one untoward word about him. he will see to it. I watched a lot of his tv show. I couldn’t understand why people were fired on the spot if they said one negative word about their team.
    If democrats want to win against whoever he is endorsing in 2028 they better get on the loyalty to their candidate band wagon.
     
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    "I watched a lot of his tv show." You have my sympathies.

    Modern Trump is often quick to forgive earlier transgressions after the Ring has been kissed. See Little Marco Rubio for one example.
     
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    well, maybe stalin and hitler weren't that bright either. a strong man can accomplish a lot, not all good
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Somehow I managed to make a BUNCH of trips around the sun without watching even ONE of his TV shows......

    I will not judge in this case because I listened to 3 hours of P45 on Rogan.
    He's actually a fairly funny person and an excellent communicator in his own way.

    Not sure if I would willingly listen to his vanquished opponent for three hours...........although she DID have the same 'opportunity.'
     
  17. Mr.Vanvandenburg

    Mr.Vanvandenburg Senior Member

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    Somehow watching extreme hubris and a mans desire for power draws people in. It must be in our genetic code with tens of thousands of years of tribes having a chief. Rarely they were women. I’m not drawn in much to it but see it in me as well.
     
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    I would say she absolutely never had the same opportunities of her opponent. For some reason ten million or so more people voted for future President Biden. Tactics degrading or blaming people for things they didn’t do, works. The final tallies are about in now. Some race in Calif was just settled, democrats gained a house seat. So much for the nonsense that the election counting has to stop on election night. It never does that.
     
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    Maybe that’s why I am aware of who he really is. Although his awol from being a President from the election to Biden’s inauguration, crowned by Jan 6, should have been enough awareness for anyone.
     
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    IMHO - He's already testing the waters, before even being sworn-in.