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  1. Isaac Zachary

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    Not a TDI, but our 1985 VW Golf was a blast! I loved filling up and then going some 600 miles to the in-laws' and then barely squeezing in 10 gallons there. The car felt immortal too. I gave it to a family member and the car still ran just fine yet had some 700k miles on it.

    But I'm weird, I like small underpowered cars with stick shifts.
     
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    My VWs felt immoral, POS on wheels. I do have to admit, if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't have looked into other forms of mobility.
     
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    My Prius feels that way.

    I'm beginning to feel that all forms of transportation that aren't just one's two feet are all immoral to some extent. Another necessity created by the rich to rob the poor at the expense of the environment.

    Back on subject, VW quality kind of went south towards the end of the 1980's. If you want quality now you get a Toyota. But expect to pay way more than a new air cooled VW Beetle adjusted for inflation for a used Corolla hybrid with a salvage title.
     
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    Looks like even Toyota's having its issues. Scotty Kilmer's a long time Toyota supporter, but this is one of his latest videos.
     
  5. Isaac Zachary

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    Perhaps. But Scotty, while making some good videos, bases a lot of his observations on his opinions rather than on facts.

    I didn't get through the whole video, but if a person were to buy a new car today and wanted it to be as long lasting as possible, what would it be?
     
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    had an 80's rabbit. first and last vdumb
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    You may have it the other way around.
    Dot.gov may be spending TOO much on it.
     
  8. Isaac Zachary

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    That's an opinion. Personally I liked small, under-powered, perhaps European styled cars (with stick shift of course). That is the only reason I'd buy a car for fun. The kind of car that would make me smile and I'd drive around just because.

    Other than that, IMO all other cars are just a silly tool for getting from point A to point B and I see no difference in the experience if it's a Toyota, Chevy, BMW, Lamborghini or Yugo, or if it runs on electricity, gasoline, diesel, hydrogen, natural gas or liquid air. Just as long as it gets me from point A to point B the most sensibly possible. I couldn't care less if my car's A/C or radio works or not (the wife might say otherwise). But that's just my opinion.
     
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    So much for that theory
     
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    oh .... so in order to beat the new john "niche" requirement .... which ORIGINALLY meant small number sales .... now that Tesla beats Toyota sales of Corolla, at least on occasion if not currently ... now we again need to move the goal post? Niche now means diversity?
    Goal post moving doesn't work now anymore unfortunately.
    Big commercial trucks? Enter the Tesla semi ...
    SUV ? Tesla model x.
    Bigger sedan? Tesla Model S
    Smaller suv? Tesla Model y
    Much smaller sedan? And although there's no showing it will be as popular? Model 2 on the near Horizon. How much more diversity do you require to remove the niche branding?
    Time to move the goal post again?
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    I hope so!

    Do you think it'll be cheaper and similar range and size to a Chevy Bolt?

    Too bad the Fiat 500e is so expensive. It's pretty cute.
     
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    Not nearly the same drag CD either
     
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    Many websites show the model 2 as being scuttled in a manner of speaking. In stead - looking forward towards a robotaxi version instead. We'll see.
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    The definition was and still is.... "a specialized segment of the market for a particular kind of product or service"

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    That is an awfully vague definition?
    So the Prius is a niche product?
    The Corolla is niche because it fills a specialized segment (sedans) for personal vehicles?
    The Ford F150 is niche because it fills a specialized segment (trucks) for a particular product (personal vehicles that can haul and tow)?

    With that wide a net John, you catch anything.

    Why don’t you give us your definition of what you mean when you say ‘niche’.
     
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