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Be ready for the new coming value added tax

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Georgina Rudkus, Nov 14, 2024.

  1. Winston Smith

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    Yes, taxes and tariffs are a drag on commerce. So is IT theft, prison camp labor, and potentially CCP interference with shipping and an invasion of Taiwan.

    Every option has a downside.
     
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  2. Georgina Rudkus

    Georgina Rudkus Senior Member

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    Just wait until China places retaliatory tariffs on corn, soy beans and pork produced by US farmers as they did in 2018.
     
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    Did the ChiComms reduce tariffs after the 2020 election?
    Did we reduce OURS for them?

    Even fake news and state funded media has addressed this point nearly accurately before and since the 2024 election.

    Most people are like Trump's vanquished opponent.
    To be charitable they are at least wildly uninformed about what tariffs really do, and how many we ACTUALLY have in place.

    Tariffs are a FAFO tool.
    You use them to stop people from doing 's' you don't want them to (Japan, raping China, South Africa's apartheid, Iran funding terror, Russia invading.....like, three or four places since the 90s)

    You can also use them reciprocally - for every country that places tariffs on US!
    (This is the part that MSM 'sometimes' obfuscates.... ;) )
    ^ THAT!

    Yep.
    FAFO goes both ways.
     
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    "The factories in China are feverishly working overtime..." This stimulated some searching:


    China Industrial Production


    Latest month here (2024 October) was not out of line. But choose a longer-timeline option (e.g. 10 yrs) and see some wild action in 2020 and 2021. So wild that one might seek confirmation from other sources.

    Then follows wondering about causes and so on.
     
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    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Threads merged
     
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    That isn’t the point of the tariffs according to the thing. Thing said over and over China pays it. All these Chinese manufacturers are not setting up shop to pay USA wages and benefits. We get to pay more, and that money goes into the treasury to offset the things tax cuts for the richest.
    Look for elimination of the inheritance tax with lipstick on it so people not affected think that’s good for them too.
     
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    Mexico and, I assume Canada are also targets for auto manufacturing. As much as a 200% tariff on Mexico imports has been suggested.
     
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    Remember for the next four years any price increases or shortages
    I know but China China China had a better ring to it for the election.
    Any price increases are now Biden and Harris’s fault for four full years. The word smiths are in place.
     
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    The man still says China pays it and still doesn’t understand what tariffs are.

    I wonder how things are in Ukraine since I don’t look at the news. I do get peeks accidentally. I feel for them. That’s all I care about now, the wars and my simple life. President Biden I hope presses for them to be in NATO, and fortifies NATO’s existence.
     
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    "{ wonder how things are in Ukraine ..." Not good. US and NATO allies have recently supplied more weapons including land mines, which are icky. These will be discussed if anywhere in 'political'.

    "President Biden I hope presses for them to be in NATO, and fortifies NATO’s existence" First is a hard no. Second could happen on a longer timeine.