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5 Reasons for and against an EV, hybrid, or ICE

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  1. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Inductive charging will probably scale up to eliminate the cord issues as BEV tech improves.....
     
    #21 ETC(SS), Nov 13, 2024 at 10:03 PM
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Once a year, my hands stink of gasoline.

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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I do not own a BEV and I can't remember the last time that MY hands smelled like petrol.
    I also cannot remember the last time I had to think about refueling options.

    I use propane/natgas for my gennys and I was taught how to refuel my cars without spilling petrol.
     
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    inductive charging without serious losses could be a ways away. you see very few plug in owners compaining about plugging in, because the reality is different from the fud.
     
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    Yeah, that was my original setup too=perfect. Then, our next plug-in had the port on the opposite side of the vehicle and the fun began.

    Umm, OK.
     
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    my pip was like that, so i made a setup on the ceiling between the cars
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I bought a J1772 extension cord, Originally to deal with ICE cars parked in the EV charging lane. Later, extending from the home, L2 charger to either the Tesla or opposite side BMW.

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    #27 bwilson4web, Nov 14, 2024 at 9:21 PM
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I just went to a gas station.

    I didn't have to leverage 40 years as an electronics technician to figure out the difference between L1 and L2 charging - or what title "SAE Surface Vehicle Recommended Practice J1772, SAE Electric Vehicle Conductive Charge Coupler" meant.

    Somebody IN THIS forum once looped me into what hybrids are supposed to REALLY MEAN.
    You can drive them like 'an ordinary car....'

    Bob's right.
    There are still too many people out there who just aren't smart enough (or wealthy enough) to pay the dues and be in the club.
     
    #28 ETC(SS), Nov 15, 2024 at 5:36 AM
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    i get a big grin everytime i pass a gas station
     
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    Some are starting to add Superchargers and CCS-1 chargers. Buckees and Pilot.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    for round trips longer than the vehicles range, it makes sense.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    A 2014 BMW i3-REx was my entry to EVs via a PHEV. When I bought it, the range extender engine avoid any problem with early, sparse, expensive, and buggy chargers:
    Don't let "wealthy" be a barrier. I found four BMW i3-REx on eBay for reasonable prices:
    • $10,000 - 62,000 mi :: warranty battery replacement last year
    • $12,900 - 52,500 mi :: has battery warranty
    • $17,999 - 31,522 mi :: has battery and body warranty
    • $25,000 - 14,031 mi :: has battery and body warranty
    Remember, GOOD, FAST, CHEAP ... pick two.

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    2025 will bring new forces to influence new and used EV prices. Who among us will predict what?
     
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    I was surprised everyone didn't buy a Prius even though I had three in series until EV converted. Sometimes, God must take care of the fallen sparrow(s).

    In high school, I used to wonder what terrible crime I committed in an earlier life to be condemned to this life with these fellows? The question remains.

    So I just do what I can for myself, some of my kin, and friends. As for the rest, well God's will be done. Everyone has a right to be wrong.

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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I don't let ANYTHING 'be a barrier."

    I'm a BEV fan - just not a fanatic.
    Gas works for me............for now.
    Not me.

    Gas prices were manipulated before the election, and not we're experiencing market forces doing the same thing.
    $2.29 and dropping rapidly locally.
    The thing is - BEVs ARE starting to affect per-barrel pricing by reducing demand, and if we can 'drill baby drill' then we will impact the Rooskies' ability to fund a war with the current artificial $60 floor.

    I seem to remember that one of P47's advisors is something of a BEV fanatic himself! ;)

    Gee....I was thinking about roughly the same metaphor for BEV implementation!
    I learned a hard truth as a DOD contractor.
    If the dot.gov wants something really bad, sometimes they get it really bad. ;)
     
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    i doubt we'll see cheap chinese bevs, unless xi can appease trump

    chevy equinox ev base price is $35k, and hopefully the bolt family in late '25 starting in the mid to high 20's.
    tariff on parts could drive those prices up though:400329917
     
    #36 bisco, Nov 16, 2024 at 2:16 PM
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