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Pine Hollow Diagnostics does a Prius v Head Gasket

Discussion in 'Prius v Main Forum' started by rjparker, Nov 12, 2024 at 11:12 PM.

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    Clear narration and video with a a few new insights. Part 1

    Will a head gasket be enough?


     
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    Is the oil filter the hardest part?
     
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    Yeah that was astounding. Some idiot put it on with an impact? Maybe been on for some time...

    He seemed to have one hell of a time breaking the bond between head and block.

    Don't really subscribe to his litany of likely causes, the "why it failed", but leave that for another day.
     
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    He is just one of those Mechanical Engineers that thinks he knows something because he works on cars for a living.

    I think that car had a really advanced hg failure with coolant in the oil. Most likely the offbrand housing oring had swollen and seized.

    I think thermal cycling has validity and was apparently reinforced by Toyota Europe's inclusion of long idles and stop and go as hg failure contributors. I have seen 40 and 50f swings within minutes in idle and low speed driving tests while using ac where the fans don't shut off. Of course Pine Hollow was quoting Gasketmasters from a few years ago; they have migrated to more engine changes along with head gaskets.

    It would be good if PIne Hollow gives us a followup on his plain vanilla gen3 hg replacement down the road.
     
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    Doesn’t this engine use stretch head bolts?
     
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    Toyota has an acceptable measurement for head bolt length and diameter. They also want timing chains measured as well as dimension inspections of many other timing and valvetrain parts.

    That is why I called this and most head gasket jobs plain vanilla.
     
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    There should be angle turns after the head bolts are torqued, as the bolts are stretch I looked it up. I did two 90 deg turns on my hg job on a Toyota truck. That’s a lot of turning from already very tight, and sets the bolts into the elastic zone as I understand it.
    I didn’t see him do the angle turns but maybe missed it. Also you can’t just throw a gasket on a head, it has to be perfectly cleaned and measured for warping. Cleaned while maintaining flatness, not with abrasive pads to make shiny for the eyes.
     
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    With 3rd gen (and likely 2nd through 4th as well), after initial torque, it's 90 degrees, then 45.