Featured California’s $100 registration surcharge

Believe it or not - there actually ARE states out there w/ very low registration fees as well as ZERO sales tax.
It's done through a combination of less public services & taxing other means/ways.
Life .... a series of trade-offs. Choose Wisely

 

It is “progressive” by penalizing you for not buying a BEV.Toyota had already said California’s requirements for next model year are unattainable.

 

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Cali adds $100 to registration fees regardless of whether it's all electric, or partial (PLUGIN) electric.
States That Charge Extra Fees To Own An Electric Vehicle

If anyone is going to look at $100 fee as penalizing, then the penalty would actually be TOWARDS Plug-In's or EV's.

Laws need to be rationally related to whatever it's stated objective is. Here, the rationale is that using electricity to propel your transportation means you pay less road tax - via gasoline use. Generally plugins are heavier, so it's rational to tax for Road wear/repair since they too are wearing out the roads - yet using way less gas than a mere hybrid.

Just be glad the feds don't exact an EV fee, which they easily can - if they wanted to because matching federal funds are used for a lot of road maintenance.
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Virginia has a similar “Highway Use Fee” tax that applies to any car rated at over 25 mpg and is scaled based on the EPA rating. My 2008 Corolla has this fee. that means tourists visiting Virginia do my to pay for their wear on Virginia roads.

 

Why is it that Hyundai Kia doesn't seem to have a problem with California requirements. Maybe because they didn't spend millions & millions for lobbyists - fighting against the legislation? Expensive Advertising that no one wants evs? Money that could have best been used for EV R&D ?
It was a gamble that Toyota took, & yet now they have to pay the consequences, or be more successful in moving the EV goal post as THEY see fit.

 

I call it the "hippy tax." Claimed to cover the lost gasoline tax revenue, it runs about the same as a 12 MPG vehicle driving 12,000 miles a year. So I get even by driving 20,000 miles a year.

Personally, I would replace all gas and diesel taxes based on an annual tag fee indexed by number of road wheels:

• 2-3 wheels - motor scooters and cycles and trailers
• 4 wheels - what many of us drive
• 6 wheels - dualies
• ...
• 18 wheels - heavy trucks

Bob Wilson

 

Part of the deal was Toyota bet big time on hydrogen & accordingly spent a boatload on developing it, but no one wants it. Now they have to face the music - caught with her pants down they'll play catch up - eventually.

 

Ideally there would be taxes for out of state vehicles (students, tourists) using the roads. An annual tag tax would penalize you for driving outside the state most of the time.

 

I wonder how Toyota US is going to handle the tariffs for non-US produced vehicles. In addition to those produces in Japan, The RAV4(non-PHEV), one of their top selling models, is produced in Canada. the Tacoma is produced in Mexico and the tariff there was threatened at up to 200%.

 

Toyota will do outstanding.

Typically, Tariffs are only for vehicles produced outside of North America - Mexican and Canadian produced vehicles are generally exempt.

Many have no idea how large Toyota's US presence is and their economic and charitable impact on our country.

... and many others don't want to acknowledge it.

Toyota’s U.S. Manufacturing Footprint: Impacting Communities with Innovation and Respect - Toyota USA Newsroom

 

Trump, for better or for worse, ignores typical. I have seen a possible 10%-20% tariff on everything from Canada.

Republican U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump on Sunday suggested he could impose tariffs higher than 200% on vehicles imported from Mexico, saying his aim would be to prevent the selling of cars from Mexico into the United States.
"All I'm doing is saying 'I'll put 200 or 500, I don't care.' I'll put a number where they can't sell one car," he said during a Fox News interview that aired on Sunday. "I don't want them hurting our car companies."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-suggests-tariffs-higher-than-200-vehicles-mexico-2024-10-13/

 

I didn’t see any extra $100 on the Prime, so you don’t on a 2012 plug in. Now I have to double check. New cars get 8 years no smog due in Calif, what more does anyone want? .

 

Honesty in government. If they want to improve the environment, quit penalizing those of us who are helping. If it is just a giveaway to EV companies, come out and say you no longer serve the voters who placed you into office.

 

I wasn’t able to find a $100 fee I paid, where is the link to this fee? Seems hard to find any reliable info, like from dmv.

 

High tariffs are expected to be placed on Canada and especially on Mexico to curb the possibility of China manufacturing cars in Mexico and importing them to the USA.

 

Tariffs are not a problem for Toyota

Look at their manufacturing might/capabilities and investment in the USA

 

Yeah, they only make their trucks and Corolla, or parts for them, in Mexico. Who needs those in the USA?

 

that’s the definition of regressive taxation which is a constitutional no no.

generally to be avoided because it can be overturned

 

North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) | Definition, Purpose, Members, Replacement, & Provisions | Britannica

UNITED STATES–MEXICO–CANADA TRADE FACT SHEET Modernizing NAFTA into a 21st Century Trade Agreement | United States Trade Representative

Toyota will do outstandingly well in this climate.

US Auto Manufacturers (GM and Ford) may be devastated
The Rise Of Automotive Manufacturing In Mexico
"US. automakers, struggling against competition from Asian and European manufacturers, found a lifeline by relocating parts of their manufacturing processes to Mexico. This move not only helped them reduce costs but also allowed them to remain competitive in the global market."
Ford, GM fire up Mexican supply chains as USMCA restructuring deferred | S&P Global Market Intelligence