2025 RAV4 Prime is no longer Called RAV4 Prime

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    Per the headlines from Toyota, the 2025 RAV4 Prime will now be called the RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid.

    2025 Toyota RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid - Toyota USA Newsroom

    No changes in design, powertrain, battery or available grades, just a name change.

    Still has an 18.12 kWh battery, 302 HP (225 kW) powertrain, 38 mpg (6.2 L/100 km) combined EPA, 42 mile (68 km) All Electric Range (AER), 2.5L engine, and SE and XSE grades. So it "changes its name to RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV), or simply RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid". This aligns it with the rest of the world, like Europe where it has always been known as RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid. The Toyota logo also no longer has the blue halo and the Prime logo on the back is now PHEV. Starting price is now $43,865 SE grade versus $43,690 for 2024 RAV4 Prime (a $175 increase).
     
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    Good, now it doesn't sound like it was named after an Amazon subscription.
     
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    I like that idea for communication clarity.
    Now if we could only get Chrysler to call Pacifica a Plug-In Hybrid too (instead of Hybrid), we'd have some better overall clarity.
     
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    .... or a Syfy movie about the Transformer characters

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    toyota has needed naming help since the second gen prius
     
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    My son’s RAV4 Prime says Plug-in Hybrid on the side badges. & Prime on the hatch lid. The badging change will be easy.
     
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    ...who remembers Prius v and c ? I would have bought a v if they still had it
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    My son traded his 2015 Prius V for his RAV4 Prime. He takes his small dogs to agility events. For outdoor events, he uses the remote start so he can keep his dogs in the car in air conditioned comfort.
     
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    v was (is) a nightmare for those with package v V?
     
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    Even though we bought an awd Rav4 XSE in 2022, I would have seriously considered the new Corolla Cross Hybrid for about the same money we paid for the v in 2011.

    The Corolla has the 5th gen dual injection 2.0L with 196 hp, awd and their 3.0 safety system which is far superior than the 13 year old v when new. Plus 45 mpg combined rather than 42.

    At my local dealer
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    ^ That's the car I told my sister to buy.

    ...I like my sister.
     
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    thinking about trading in my Prius prime for a rav 4 plug in hybrid. It seems the name change is the biggest change from 2024 to 2025 but I'm also trying to figure out if the shape changes at all, technology enhancements. I've driven a 2024 but I can only search online for the 2025. I have two sales guys competing one with a 2024 and one with a 2025. Anyone seen one yet? How do they compare?
     
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    Yeah it's the same thing, except the 2024 will cost a little less.
     
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    Are they both Gen 5 hybrids? I know my son has been enjoying his RAV4 Prime XSE as a replacement for his Prius V.
     
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    The rav4 system is technically a gen4 hybrid but is not the same as a gen4 Prius 1.8L by any means. The RAV4s and lots of other Toyotas are 2.5L dual injection with electric variable valve intake timing as primary differences. Obviously a plugin has bigger hv batteries and more net hybrid horsepower.
     
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    Anybody know if the 2025s have switched over to NACS ?
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    With the PHEVs not having DC charging, why would Toyota bother switching to NACS?
     
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    Because NACS works on all power levels?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Do chargers in Europe and Asia use it?

    The PHV/Prime models are made in Japan for the global market(except China). Despite how people feel, gasoline is also relatively cheap in the US. Charging on a trip isn't has as big of an advantage here as elsewhere. Plus the majority of public Level 2 chargers are j1772, and will likely remain so for some years.

    Toyota isn't going to pay more to use a different plug in one market when it is of little actual benefit to the customer.