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Coolant Light turns on when on tiny incline

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  1. jamesprius

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    The coolant level is way over the full when it's level so not sure why it's happening.

    Also there seem to be two levels of the coolant? A lighter pink and a darker pink. Could it just be stained?

    Hard to tell looking from the side and the top. These pics are when it's on the slight incline so it's full even when not level.. After driving some time it turns off.

    Could the light turn on if it's too full?
     

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    I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "coolant light". If you're talking about the light on the dash that looks like a thermometer in water, and is red - as far as I know, that's for the engine coolant. Your photos are for the inverter coolant.

    You might already know this, but: a Gen1 Prius has two separate coolant circuits. One circuit is for the gasoline engine, just like your father's Oldsmobile. That one includes the coolant passages around the cylinders in the gasoline engine, the mechanical water pump that's on the passenger side of the engine, the two big hoses to the radiator at the front (FRONT) of the engine compartment, and the milky white plastic reservoir on the passenger side of the engine compartment, with the L-shaped "fin" on the top. (This circuit also runs the heater core inside the dash, for heating the cabin and/or windshield, but it's harder to see the hoses for that when you open the hood.)

    The other circuit is for the inverter (that big square thing with the aluminum cover that says "Toyota Hybrid System" on it) and the electric-motor side of the transmission. That one includes the inverter, part of the transmission, an electric water pump behind the left headlight, and the milky white plastic reservoir on the driver's side of the engine.

    The action for checking the gasoline engine coolant circuit is to let the car sit for several hours without being run. Open the hood and find the radiator cap - it's shiny metal, mostly a circle, with two "ears" on either side of the circle. It probably has a round sticker in the center, and it may have an "ND" logo stamped into one of the metal "ears". It's towards the passenger side of the car, behind the body-color metal that runs across the entire engine compartment right behind the headlights, and in front (FRONT) of that black plastic rectangle that holds the air filter.

    Twist that cap counterclockwise about a half a turn to remove it. Look in the hole where the cap was. If there is red-ish coolant nearly up to the top of the hole, it's fine - it's even OK if a little spills out when you take off the cap. If not, go get some Toyota Long Life Antifreeze, either from a Toyota dealer or Amazon. "Import Red" coolant from the car parts store is second choice. Also get some distilled water from the grocery store. Cut the coolant 50/50 with distilled water, pour the 50/50 mix into the hole until it's full, and put the radiator cap back on.

    Do NOT use green coolant, like your father's Oldsmobile used.
    Do NOT use orange Dex-Cool coolant.

    Next, look at the milky white plastic bottle towards the passenger side of the car. It has an "F" mark, with a line, molded into the plastic. If the red/pink color is up to that line, OK. (I like to put my hand on the top of the fender and push on it, to rock the car side-to-side a little, so I can confirm that the liquid sloshes around inside the bottle and I'm not just seeing a stain from where the liquid used to be.) If the red/pink color isn't up to that line, pull the black plastic cap with a hose on it off of that bottle (it just pulls up, it doesn't turn), pour the 50/50 mix into that bottle until it's up to the "F" line, and then snap the black plastic cap back on.

    If you had to add coolant to either of these places, then also do this: the next time you drive the car more than 10 or 15 miles, when you get where you're going, turn the temperature dial on the dash up to max (over 85 F), turn the blower to high, and let the car run for a few minutes like that. The heater should be blowing warm air inside the cabin. Once the car has cooled for several hours again, recheck both the radiator cap and the reserve bottle - you may need to add a little more coolant.

    If the coolant is always low when you check it, you may have some other problem, like a leaky hose, leaky radiator, leaky head gasket, or leaky heater core.

    The action for checking the inverter and transmission circuit is to turn the ignition key to "ON" without starting the engine. Pop the hood and take the lid off of the the reservoir on the driver's side of the engine - the one in your picture. Look in the hole where the lid was. You should see a consistent series of ripples in the surface of the red/pink coolant - this means there are no air bubbles in this circuit, and the electric pump is moving the coolant as it should.

    If you don't get the ripples, you probably have an air bubble somewhere in this circuit. The procedure to fix this is more involved, involving applying vacuum (from a hand vacuum pump, or biosourced) to both the reservoir and the two nipples on the front (FRONT) side of that shiny square "Toyota Hybrid System" box.
     
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    Thanks for these detailed instructions. Learned a lot from reading the post, did not know there was 2 coolant systems. It looks like the light is from the engine coolant level. It was near the E line and when on a slight incline it the light comes on. (although maybe the same light turns on if the inverter coolant is low also?). The coolant might have dried up some of the water during the hot summers in the last few years?

    The car has 62k miles so might be due for coolant change, hopefully it's ok to top up with distilled water for the short term.

    Also just last week the hybrid system, exclamation light and the OBD check engine light came on. My OBD scanner showed no codes found, but when you read the codes it showed a P3130. Was able to drive home with no other codes.

    When the ignition in ON, there was no coolant flow in the inverter coolant reservoir. The pump is most likely bad but as there's only 62k might be chance it's something else.

    1) Can try to bleed it as you have stated
    2) Could try to see if there is power to it?
    3) Anyone know which fuse for the inverter water pump?

    Not sure if there is anything else to check before just changing the pump?
     

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    I'd only add that coolant can come pre-diluted or as concentrate that you have to dilute with distilled water. Don't add distilled if the coolant is aready diluted to 50/50. I think most parts stores push the prediluted coolant because it's more profitable. Concentrate is usually just a little bit more, but you get 2 gallons for the additional $1 it costs for distilled. The pre-diluted is charging you coolant prices for the distilled water.

    SYK, the concentrate is also best when you're doing a flush. Not sure about G1s, but for most cars, it's hard/impossible to get all the liquid out of the block after flushing. Thus just filling up with 50/50 mix will end up less than 50/50. Instead, just drain as much as you can, then add as much concentrate as it needs (1/2 of the total capacity) and top it up with distilled.

    On the other hand, 50/50 is best for topping up between flushes.
     
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    Ok, for flushing I thought you could just use distilled water and run it for a short time and then repeat? After a few times, then refill with 50/50?

    Back to the inverter pump, is there a fuse for it? Just wanted to check, but yesterday, touching the pump itself, it does seem like there is no vibration at all.
     
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    The issue is that you don't know that you got all the distilled water out. Not sure if the block drain plugs are easy to get to on G1s - or if there even are drain plugs, but on my trucks even opening the drains doesn't completely drain the cooling system. Sooo, filling with 50/50 means that you'll have less than 50/50 because there's still distilled water.

    Instead, drain as best you can, then put the specified amount of pure coolant (concentrated form) in, and finally add distilled water to top it off. = 50/50. Take any leftover concentrate, double it with distilled water, and keep it to add coolant later if you need to.
     
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    You can actually hear it running - if it's running. It's faint, but get your ear close to the driver's headlight and if it's working, you'll hear it. There is a fuse, forget which one now, but I posted it for someone else here within the last month.
     
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    Yeah it's not running, there's no sound, I read somewhere if you put your hand on it you should feel a little vibration also. I'll try to go through your history for that thread. thanks~
     
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    Ok I see what you mean, I can you can also measure how much is drained out and subtract that from the capacity to determine the ratio you should put in.
     
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    LOL, you just trying to make this hard. Main thing is don't buy 50/50 premix. You're buying distilled water for $10/half gallon.