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OEM spare tire install

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Hammersmith, May 31, 2023.

  1. Lantaral

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    Yes, the diagrams of the jack for the LE $168 # 09105-52030, and the $90 # 09105-47020 for the Prime appear identical. Each of the diagrams lists the exact same component part numbers. The only potential difference is that "type a" has a slim bag, and 'type b" has a larger bag.

    Think I'll try it without the deckboard and weather cargo liner, see if that works. Deleting those two items and using the Prime jack drops by upgrade price by about a third.

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  2. Daniel Scott

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    Hi all! I'm in the process of completing this for my 2024 Limited- just waiting for a tire to be installed on the wheel. I bought my kit from Lewis Toyota during their Labor Day Sale. My question is what are you doing with the two large original pieces of styrofoam? I hate to throw them away and they are fairly large to store (also I see no reason to hang onto them). Thanks!
     
  3. Hammersmith

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    Welcome to the club. lol

    I'm going to keep them and store them in my garage on some shelves I'm installing near the ceiling. An attic would also be a good choice. I said welcome to the club because I feel the same as you: hate throwing them out; too big to store. Since I'm going to have room, I'm going to keep them just in case. But if I have to move and downsize, they're going in the trash.
     
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    Lewis Toyota has holiday sales on parts? Interesting. I

    I cringe when I think about the huge WHITE styrofoam pieces and what to do once I get my car and add the spare kit.
     
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    I bought the bottom pieces and then cut the OEM container styrofoam out to fit the spare
     
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    Absolutely a valid way of doing it, but I do like having all the proper places for the tools and emergency triangles. And I've got a touch of OCD, so I like the neatness. :)
     
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    I hear ya. I don't see it so- out of sight/out of mind. I fit the jack etc no problem.
    I'm going to spend the money I didn't spend on the other parts for suspension parts.
     
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    Since the LE FWD trim has lower floor, do you think you can fit a full size tire without it sticking out?
     
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    The metal body floor of the LE isn't lower, it just comes with a shallower expanded plastic tray to start with. The fitting of the spare tyre to the floor is the same for all trims. (And there's no FWD/AWD difference).

    If you fit a space-saving spare tyre and the tray for it, that tray is the same height as the one the XLE and Ltd came with. If you started with an LE, you've lost some cargo space.

    And a full-size tyre is always going to bulge out of the tray designed for the space-saver tyre - you'd need to construct an even-higher tray.
     
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    What if you don't install the foam below the spare tire and just use the screw on cap to fasten the tire to the floor while cut out the stock foams on both sides, would that work?
     
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    That could work kind of okay, if you had an XLE or Ltd.

    Recent Reddit post from someone who did it



    But it wouldn't work for the LE, cos the foam you start with isn't deep enough.
     
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  12. Mendel Leisk

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    Temp spare will fit properly; full-size not so much.
     
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    No, even a temp spare will not fit in the LE unless you raise the floor and give up some of your storage space for everyday use.

    Here are pics with a temp spare, which is considerably more narrow than a full size tire.

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    With 4th gen FWIW, there were two floor levels, dependent on if the car had the spare or not. The differences were accommodated by different fill pieces, and maybe a slightly different floor as well.

    5th gen (except AWD I think) do have space for temp spares, at least as evidenced by the Owner's Manual, which has a section on the temp spare, with the proviso "if equipped". See attached:
     

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    We've been over this so many times...
    (I swear I'm going to make a 2.0 version of this thread sometime with a FAQ to start it off - sigh)

    ALL gen5 Prius HEVs can install a compact spare
    NO gen5 Prius HEVs can install a full size spare without modifications
    NO gen5 Prius Prime PHEVs can install a compact spare - period

    The Prius LE can install a compact spare, but it requires modifications of the cargo floor in some way. (That's the foam and board parts, not the sheet metal.)

    Having an AWD Prius DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING. Yes, AWD prevented installing a spare in previous generations, BUT IT DOESN'T ANYMORE!!!

    I know this because I actually own a gen5 Prius AWD and have the spare installed. I posted photos of it in this thread.



    How about we stop confusing newcomers by posting incorrect information about things we don't have any direct experience with?
     
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    Hammersmith, Mendel thank you both so much for your patience and attention to detail. My wife and I have had our 24 xle since January, and I am one of those trying to save by not making a mistake when I finally pull the trigger and purchase everything required for the spare. It is sad to be old and taken advantage of by the manufacturers that only sell us what they want, instead of what we want. I would much rather have a safe spare to use and not need it, than need one and not have it.
    Thanks again to the both of you for all your time and effort. It is appreciated.
     
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    Not a thing of great beauty but it will work if needed. Thank you Hammersmith for posting the correct size wheel and tire for a compact spare. Toyota had the wheel on sale for $70. Tire was $115. I used one of the tie down bolts from my Mazda which had 2. Now I'm looking for a decent scissor jack. One from Amazon, 2 ton, was junk and had to be returned. Cutting out the styrofoam was the hardest part. I wish it could have been neater but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. It will be nice knowing I have a spare.
     

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  18. Mendel Leisk

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    The spare tire size is spec'd in the owner's manual. Also in the pdf excerpt in post 334. Screen grab:

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    @Hammersmith - just checking if you ever had an opportunity to verify fit/placement of the scissor jack?
     
  20. Illini Al

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    Just got a 24 XLE AWD for my wife. I don't want her driving around without a spare, so I'm going to purchase most of the parts for the spare ---- I'm not going to order the styrofoam blocks 64997 and 64995. If necessary, I'll check the amount of clearance between the tire and the floor board, and put something together to support the floor board. My wife won't be putting anything heavy in the back, anyway.
    Thanks for this thread and I'll keep you posted!