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High Coolant Temp warning after EGR cleaning

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Beeach, Sep 4, 2024.

  1. Beeach

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    I am afraid my SIL forgot to plug that back in. I am waiting to hear back from him.

    Problem now is that I can't even get it plugged back in. It seems really tight and I assume I need to be able to slide the black part fully over the white notch at the top? I will need to use some plyers then.

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    Make sure it is the correct way. You should not have to FORCE it....
    Using plyers you could crack the connector.

    It usually is a tight fit just as it snaps into place. So make sure the pins align and
    that the "lock" is in the correct place.

     
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    Did it make a nice click? Are you able to pull it back off without squeezing the release tab?

    If it clicked and you can't pull it back off without squeezing, it's ok.

    If you can't get it to click, and you can pull it right back off, then something is in the way. You should not need a lot of force to plug it in.

    You could pull it back off and examine carefully for anything in the way. Maybe use a mirror on a stick to look in the connector on the sensor itself to see if either pin is bent, or some piece of junk is in there.

    You can look in the wire harness, for a glimpse of the rubber gasket (usually red in color, I think) that goes around the outside, looking for any place it might be sticking up or kinked,

    Sometimes after years that rubber gets a bit hard, and won't slide over the sensor connector as easily. I've found that a very tiny dab of a silicone grease, on the outside of the sensor connector, right around the edge that will have to pass through the gasket, can work wonders. (There is a Ford Motorcraft silicone grease, XG-3, that is amusingly sold for disc brake caliper lubrication and electrical connectors.)

    Edit: also, if I remember right, that little wire harness is only several inches long, a little extension from another connector closer to the cylinder head. If it really doesn't want to plug in, you could try replacing that little wire extension.
     
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    I cannot make a click. There is only one way it fits (3 grooves). I inspected both ends of the plug, nothing seems in the way. When I line the back of the black plug up to the end of the white part, it looks to me that the black part is too short to ever fit fully over the white notch and lock them together. There is a rubber seal/gasket inside the black plug that is tight enough that I hear a light pop when I pull it back off, but that's all I can do. You'd have to hope that it never vibrates loose. Does this make any sense?

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  5. Mendel Leisk

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    Mine looks about the same; I’ve never touched it.

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    @Mendel Leisk Then the pressure of the rubber gasket inside the black plug must keep them together. But a bit strange to me. Thanks for your picture!
     
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    There’s no locking lever on the back? It’s so far back I could barely touch it, but could feel something on the far side.
     
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    it doesn't have to go all the way over. Just far enough to click.

    Is it possible your SIL broke off the clicky bit while removing it? Then it's just a matter of pushing it on and thinking secure thoughts.

    This looks to me like a possible busted place;

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    That little wire extension, if my research skills haven't failed me, is part number 82124-47040, and probably under $20 brand new in a box from a Toyota dealer that sells at discount (list is about $26).

    This picture shows the little extension with the actual sensor plugged in at the end, but of course the 82124-47040 part is just the wire extension.

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    Pulling it off a salvage car should be even cheaper. Just don't break the clicky bits pulling it off!

    ... that happened to me once. There was a particular clip that I needed for an old car I was driving, because the original one had broken. I went to a dealer, and the guy said "that's no longer available. But wait, I think we have an old parts car in that model around back", and I walked around back with him, and sure enough, there was the car, with the exact clip I needed. He wiggled it for a bit, then said "just a sec", and before I could say "oh, no problem, may I try?" he came back with a big screwdriver, broke the clip off, and handed it to me.
     

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  9. Beeach

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    @ChapmanF You must be right, I was thinking the same thing after Mendel's suggestion. I took a better pic of what looks like it broke off, showing the interior material of that clip.

    What a hassle this, but it is satifying to solve the problem. That is... going to fill it back up with oil and leave it connected like that for now, maybe wrap some tape around it, and then see if the temp light is gone.

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    You could wrap a cable tie through the open part of the connector and around the lower
    part of the sensor....

     
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    AND upon startup..... temp light is gone!!! Big sigh of relief!
    Thanks SO much everyone for your help: I learned a lot.
    It was a silly thing. And I put some duck tape on the connection for now (no room for zip tie).
    I hope someone else learns from it someday too.

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    We've already learned a new thing, that the red thermometer light doesn't only come on for HOT, it also comes on for unplugged (which, with an NTC thermistor, reads as REALLY COLD).

    For that sensor, anyway. Haven't tried with the one in the cylinder head.
     
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    Glad all is well. Check the coolant tank to make sure you have enough coolant.
    And you can use a smaller cable tie.
    The duct tape might fall apart from the heat..... Check it once a week or so and see
    how it's holding up...

     
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    @ChapmanF After cleaning up my oil pan, I found a little plastic thingy that looks JUST like the clip in your image if I zoom in, laying there in my oil pan. This would mean that it broke off at any unknown moment in time, has been laying there in the plastic cover or anywhere else in the engine, fell down after I put the oil pan there, for some unknown reason (shaking the car, unexplicable wind?), and landed in the oil pan. It looks exactly like what should have been on the clip. I mean, look at the little line in the center of the clip....!?!?

    At any rate, what I thought was going to be a terrible day turns out to be a really memorable day. Thanks again and bless you all!

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    I sure will do!
     
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    If the connection is unreliable, it's an easy snip from a self service junkyard
     
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