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Need new rear bearings; is it time for a new Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Scott_R, Aug 23, 2024.

  1. Scott_R

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    I have 140k on my 2012. There've been a lot of repairs lately: new brakes, front struts... about $3k in the past year.

    A couple of months ago I heard a rumbling noise as I drove, which got worse the faster I went. As I suspected, it's a the bearings.

    Local Toyota dealer said the front-right bearing was pretty bad, and the rear 2 were also making noise but not an immediate problem. So I did the front-right.

    Dealer quote for the rear bearings is $2k. I know I can probably save money by going to an independent, but my real question is, is this a sign that it's time to move on? Whatever I pay to fix those bearings, I still have a 12 year old car with 140k on it.

    I'm trying not to consider the sunk-cost fallacy of what I've spent on repair the last few years, but whether I'm better off with a new car. So the issue isn't what I've spent so far, but on how much more can go wrong.

    I can afford it; I've just been vacillating on WHAT new car (I've had Priuses since 2006) and if I want to make the jump to EV. But the bearing issue has been a kick in the pants to really think about the issue: repair the old, or buy new?
     
  2. Tombukt2

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    In the chassis department not necessarily 2K for rear bearings I didn't look to see where you are If you're in the rust belt well they could need some serious slugging with a big hammer I mean wheel bearings are just wear items and these planned obsolescence vehicles they can go out a little faster than what some of us are used to seeing but in the grand scheme of things I shouldn't be anywhere near 2K and TRQ bearings I use are about $49 a pop or something for each side of the rear so let's say a hundred bucks $120 to my door for the two and the rest of the 1700 and some odd dollars is labor seriously well if that's where we are that's where we are everybody better be getting the floor jack and what have you You think this is not going to happen on your electric vehicle or whatever you buy next can't see that being realistic wheel bearings on 5,000 lb or so pieces of machinery are going to wear out whether it's a tractor an automobile you're zero turn mower It's just a thing and now that things are being built so that they'll only last a certain amount of time well there you go then making these things so they can all fail closely given the engine problems a lot of these things have between the mileage you're at now and say maybe 190ish personally with a three I might be looking to get out soon so keep the repairs maybe to a minimum because I don't know these don't seem to be keepers like can't be
     
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    I would say there are opportunities for even more costly repairs coming up based on what people report here, so my opinion is yes, it's time to let it go and get something else. Especially since you can afford it, unlike many others who hang on and end up with even more expensive repairs later.
    If you decide to keep it a while longer, no way wheel bearings should be that much. I recently replace on (front) myself for under $100 in the back yard. (Turned out to be the tire making the noise though, the bearing was fine). Take it to an independent shop for an estimate.
     
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    If you did the front right the rears should be not any harder. I shopped around for daughters Camry. It seems even Moog is made in PRC but probably at their own factory there. The rest seem remarkably the same. The cost is low for the factory assembled loaded bearing, if you are willing to do the labor. No need to try and press the bearing in.
     
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    FWIW, the Toyota dealer did the front. The one bearing took almost 4 hours and they said a torch had to be used.

    I'm on Long Island (NY). Not a ton of salt on the streets in the winter, but I live on the water and the car has been parked about 100 feet from a saltwater bay for the past dozen years, with winds that regularly hit 20-30 miles per hour (and much higher). So I'm guessing a lot of rust is involved.
     
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    I've done one front and one rear... the front was a lot harder for me - used an air hammer.

    For the front, I used a $60 Mevotech, but for the rear I used a $90 NSK - excellent quality.
     
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    Great, but not my question.
     
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    Have a look at the rear suspension. It's quite exposed, even without the rear being raised. If you can raise it all the better. Get some good light in there (or use flash on your phone/camera). Maybe post the pics here too.
     
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    The point is, he wants advice on whether to let it go and get something else, not how to replace a bearing or whether there is rust underneath.
     
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    It kind of comes down to the individual person's own $ threshold for "give up and get another car".

    For something simple like a bearing, it probably wouldn't be close to my threshold if I planned to just buy it and swap it myself, but it could be a closer call if I were looking at a $2k quote from a dealer.
     
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    $40,000 for a new car, plus insurance, or $2000 for bearings????
    Seems simple to me since you said can't afford it.
    Independent place would be the least expensive. Unless you do it yourself.

    You NEVER need a torch to remove them!! NEVER! Just a big hammer and punch
    to rotate he hub and rust penatrant to free it up. It just takes patience.

    Bottom line is, what do YOU want to spend the money on?

    I've got 350,000 miles on my 2010 Prius. Just cleaned the egr system. Nice to have that
    spare cooler already cleaned! I'm waiting for the intake manifold to dry so I can reinstall it.
    I also replaced the transfluid and coolant.


     
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    I would start shopping around for a new car and compare that to the future possibilities of battery, brake actuator, inverter, head gasket and etc., which may prove very costly at a dealer if bearings are two grand.
    Fwiw, I traded my 2012 with 87k when the engine started misfiring.
     
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    Check Big O tires, the one by my daughter turned out to be better than the dealer. Free inspection. The replacement cost would have been 1/4 the dealer, although I did it for her anyway, and Big O did the alignment for $119. Her total was $119 plus a wasted $115 at the dealer. I paid the rest which was under $200 for the parts.
    A Prius looks much easier than a Camry. The iron hub with bearing mounts to the knuckle with four bolts.
     
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    If you can afford to switch up to a new car, I say go for it.

    They aren't getting any cheaper; might be nice to lock in the cost of the next car before it goes up again. Supply issues have largely subsided and there are some decent cars to choose from out there now.
     
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    Wheel Bearings are part of the natural wear on a high-mileage car, so replacing them isn’t unusual. However, with your car’s age and mileage, other components like the suspension, exhaust system, or even the hybrid battery (if it’s a Prius) might eventually need attention. If you anticipate having to tackle additional high-ticket repairs, this is a signal that you may start encountering more significant, more frequent costs.
     
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    Oh it's $2,000 because you're in Long Island New York I knew something was wrong I don't even know what to tell you to do up that way anymore It's been a long time since I've been in those stomping grounds I have old friends over in Western Massachusetts that are probably retired from the car repair business but they had to cut that price at least in half not a bad job You can do it in your driveway with minimal hand tools big hammer and some of the stuff called k r o i l but it's a New York car too so if it's got a lot of rust then you're right it may not be worth it but carefully these cars actually do pretty good surprisingly but once it takes hold it's not very long until it's chassis eating and becoming unsafe
     
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    FWIW, I have since purchased a 2024 Prime.
    :)

    And it's ON Long Island!
     
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    congrats man, great move!
     
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    2013 Prius C Four. Rear bearings got loud and louder at about 180k miles. OEM hubs from the local dealer were $220 a piece (hub=pressed bearing assembly and the ABS sensor). 2 hour job and a six pack of beer. Original bearings were bit stuck. 5lb hammer was helpful. All said, not that bad.
     
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    Congrats on the new Prime! Yeah, 12-years is a good run for any car these days, especially when you have to fight rust. My 2014 Tundra has been great but just discovered the front timing cover has an oil leak that's common as these V-8's get about 10 years old. Dealer quoted $2,600 to remove the cover, replace the seal, and put it back together but I know a couple master mechanic who can do it much cheaper (and I've never done one so want to be there to help and learn...Toyota dealerships frown on that!!) :)