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Can I fit a 2013 compressor on a 2010 Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Seymour1, Aug 17, 2024.

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    I saw a post where someone mounted a 2012 compressor on a 2010 Prius. He said that it was not supposed to fit, but it does. I assume he referrs to a late 2012 to 2015 compressor. The newer ones have a short pig-tail orange cable attached to the compressor while the old style does not. I think my 2010 needs a replacement compressor. Maybe newer designs last longer. And, I found a great deal on an ebay 2013 compressor. However, the vunerable 6-pin connector still collects water, and often is damged during shipment.
     
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    Air conditioning compressors on these models really if they're kept up with the least of the problem I'm in a high heat climate my 2010 and my 2013 Persona air conditioners are flawless they'll run you out of the car The problem is the car is just don't run worth the crap so if you don't have the pigtail or you do have the pigtail you probably going to want to stay with what you got or you're going to be making some kind of a wiring change so if you get it out of the later car that has a plug in the back of it for the HV rather than a pigtail you're going to want to cut the plug that plugs into the compressor and leave yourself about 8 in or so of cable whatever you can get because now you're going to need to cut your business orange cables and connect this plug assembly you just got to make it all work now splicing and making connections on DC wiring capable of 300 volts is not a big deal but it has to be done with the proper equipment proper fittings
     
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    and that's pretty expensive to do, given that those orange wires are shielded, and the connector needs to be properly joined to both the wire and the shield, and you'd be buying connectors and crimp dies to do it that you'll probably never be using again, and they're not cheap.

    I don't think the connection at the inverter changed any, so my hunch would be that either your existing orange cable from the inverter will plug right into the pigtail (maybe with a little extra slack for you to secure somehow), or it won't but you can replace that orange cable with the later 82122-47030 one and it'll plug right in (and maybe confuse every later person who has to work on it).
     
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    What if it's just a bad sensor?
     
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    I read a post recently where someone wrote that a later model 2012 will fit a 2010 model. Now I cannot find that post. I found a good price on a newer-style compressor and I mine has gone bad. Perhaps the newer ones were re-designed for better reliability. The newer part has a short length of orange cable made onto the compressor.
    The high voltage cable is the same part number, so it should connect O.K. I worry that the software or computer for the compressor is not compatible. Ebay vendors do not know.
    Has anyone tried to do this?
     
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    No there won't be any software computer problems I don't believe between the two compressors One you'll have to undo the pigtail from wherever it goes into the inverter in order to get the plug you need to go into the back of the later model compressor and vice versa depending upon what you're using there's nothing wrong with any of the electric compressors so if you can get a good one off of a car where maybe it's been replaced on their dime by the dealer for $1,500 or something that would be a good move rather than just trying to get a later model You could get a later model with double the mileage on it!. So there's always that I haven't had trouble with any of all of mine got over 200,000 everyone I've picked up at the junkyard came from vehicles in the United States that were sitting it 180 plus and that's only been two or three and they're all in cars working wonderfully we have very good air conditioning if nothing else.
     
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    Thanks, Tom
    I don't understand what you wrote about undoing the orange pigtail cable. I have only seen the newer ones in pictures, but I am not sure that is removable or should be removed. The long, existing high voltage cable did not change. So, it should be compatible with the newer compressor. I think maybe they wanted to have the end of the long, existing cable terminated in a different place. I found that the fan (or something) cut my long high voltage cable. Maybe Toyota wanted to move the cable and connector away from the fan and had to move the location of the connector in order to do it. Make sense?
     
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    Anyway, I am proceeding to purchase a compressor (I made an offer) from a late 2012 from New England. The summers up there are mild.
     
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    I'm going out to have a look at the two vehicles right now I don't think it's a quick plug and play operation but I could be wrong but I'm going to know in about 10 seconds
     
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    Generation 3 the air compressor has a rear firing receptacle for a two-prong orange plug that has two prongs inside of it that will slide over the receptacle on the back of the compressor that should be the same till 15 or 16 your hoses should bolt up to that compressor I don't think they relocated the suction and discharge hoses and if they did it must be I don't know maybe after 2015 so it looks like it'll bolt up plug up and work I have the 2010 here in the picture of the 2012 I believe they're pretty much the same unless there's something inside of them but I kind of doubt it
     
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    Sounded like the OP encountered two versions for gen 3, one with the receptacle fixed to the compressor, one on a short pigtail.

    Are you positive? I seem to remember seeing both 82122-47010 and 82122-47030 as gen 3 numbers for that cable, depending on the car's production date. I can do Google image search for both, but I'm not sure what exactly's different between the images. On the later one they might have added what looks like a ferrite, and for all I know maybe that's the only difference.
     
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    The 2010 and the 2013 here one of Persona one a loaded solar roof car both have the receptacle on the back of the compressor and a plug that goes right in that That's all I got they both sitting right here staring at me. The generation 2 has the orange wire fixed to the side of the compressor looks similar I guess but that wire is mounted hard to the compressor and it plugs in right up there by the inverter on the two The three the plug from the inverter goes all the way down to the compressor to plug in so you have to extend your arm and reach down to unplug and plug in the generation 3 where the generation 2 your hands are up level with the inverter.
     
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    I saw on ebay high voltage cables for sale advertized to fit 2010 through 2015 models. And, I saw a post where someone claimed that the newer compressor will fit a 2010 Prius. Maybe I reached the wrong conclusion that it will fit with minimal problems.
    In looking at pics of the 2 compressors, the newer one has the connector and pigtail mounted on a bracket a few inches below the spot that the older cable connects. Both face the same direction. There might be enough slack in the cable to reach either plug. I might need to replace the orange cable. Or I can return the compressor (from a wrecked car in New England with 98,000 miles).
     
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    So on the end of the plug on the unit with the cord or pigtail mounted to the compressor is the end of the cord the same receptacle like that's on the back of the compressor that doesn't have the pigtail three prong so on so in other words the cord that's in the car that plugs into the receptacle on the back of the compressor the plug on the end of the pigtail maybe we'll plug in to that cord in your car?
     
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    Tom, that is what I was going to ask. In other words, is the newer long orange cable different only because it is a different length or is it different because the plug is different to fit a different connector on the pigtail? Is it possible to replace the pigtail with the connector from my old faulty compressor?
     
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    I think my approach would be to try the compressor and see if the existing cable connector will fit its pigtail. If so, you're done.

    If not, I'd try purchasing the other cable from the inverter to the compressor, which should be an easy swap and mate at both ends.

    I would discourage trying to change the connectors either at the end of the existing cable or at the compressor. Those are shielded high-voltage wires with special connectors that are assembled with bespoke tooling and none of that stuff is easy to find.

    My local auto electric shop is where I often go when I want a nice cable to be made up right, but last I checked, they had none of the necessary tooling to work on HV cables and were uninterested in venturing into that business, and I found one shop in the UK that would build a cable to my design and ship it, for a price of hundreds of pounds. The connectors and tools are still just too niche to be widely supported.

    So my focus would be on making things fit, if needed, by swapping the parts that are built to be swapped.
     
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    Yes I would think it would be easier to get the cable coming from the inverter going to the compressor or to the compressors cable and then you do that so in the 2010 you've got the long cable coming from the inverter or something along those lines and it has a plug in the back or on that orange cable that goes in the back of the compressor which is the receptacle
     
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    At first, I had a damaged cable. It had been cut somehow. Replacing that cable was a terrible job. I never could replace one bolt without first removing the EGR cooler. The bolt remains in "left-over parts" bin.
    I was so sure that after seeing cables on ebay which were said to fit 2010 to 2015 models, I could not understand why I was getting posts about soldering the cables together. I need a better source for part numbers.
    I found a 47030 cable on ebay (actually 2) that shows the connector the same as I need. It has a lump in the cable that mine does not. I think it is a ferrite sleeve to reduce radio frequency noise. see attached. The one on blue is the 47030. If it all works out well, I will do a post. 47030 cable on ebay.jpg 47030 cable on ebay.jpg 47010 from my car.JPG 47010 from my car.JPG
     
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    As long as that business with the pins in it bolts up to your inverter you should be good to go then that gives you the plug that goes into the back of your compressor which is the receptacle and you should be able to plug it up and turn on the car and turn on the air but you have to bolt that in at the inverter shouldn't really be a problem of course unless you don't have that kind of connection that you're inverter which I would think would be pointless they wouldn't make two different complete inverter casting for plugs and what have you I wouldn't think but then in this day and age go figure.