Featured Conversations at a Toyota dealership

Sales critters. If their lips are moving you know they're lying. Perfect example here. We only have one (BZ?) in back. But everybody trades them (more than one) in within a couple months. Doesn't that mean folks came in and bought them? Because you only have one left? Or they have multiple of people continually rebuying the same car? Guy can't keep his stories straight.

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Car salesman get paid for keeping cars rolling off the lot... If the stealership doesn't have a lot full of EVs the salesman aren't going to sell them as much as what's on the lot. Toyota's anti EV-agenda is clear in all this...

 

if i had to sell toyota ev's, i'd throw in the towel too

 

A year ago, we decided that our current Prii wouldn't make it all the way through to my wife's retirement. She puts on over 100 miles every workday. Her car had 220K miles and she's got at least 5 years to go. The other one has 115K miles. I went to the local dealer for some parts, but on the way out, I ran into one of the sales manager types. Just for the kicks of it, I asked him if they had any of the Primes.

He gave me the "well, I do not know about electrics in Wyoming".

Between me and my wife, we've got over 200K miles, on Prius, IN WYOMING. We ended up driving to another state and picking up a used Gen 4 Prime at a dealer there. We love it.

 

I hope Toyota is giving you a small cut of the tens of millions they're spending on their pro fossil fuel disinformation campaign!

 

I bought my used, 2017 BMW i3-REx from a Toyota dealer. They thought they'd gotten over a sucker customer. I knew I'd stolen the car from them. Funny, we were both happy with the sale and equally thinking the other 'the fool.'

Bob Wilson

 

that's the perfect deal

 

Current new car inventory at nearby-to-us dealership:

 

LOL, they can eat the bz's when they run out of money for food.

 

What's wrong with the BZ4X, other than I can't remember its name, it's an SUV and it's pricey?

 

relative to other available ev's, it is missing some features for the price.
i actually like it outside of the suv part, but the bolt was half the price or less, and that's with heated and air conditioned seats!

 

You can always step up to the Lexus version w/ greater features - but then of course you have to pay many more thousands of bucks ... & still get the mediocre range & mediocre charging speeds. They have a couple of the Subaru version at the local Subaru lot & the all-wheel drive version has even mediocre'er'er range. The redeeming thing is, this will hopefully be Toyota's first iteration & future ones will do better. We'll check back once they've switched over to the nacs plug.
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i hope so. getting the federal credit (if there is one) is important.

 

The pricey combined with it having shorter ranger and slower DC charge speeds than the competition is the problem.

 

But isn't that Toyota, with the advantage of lasting longer? I mean, sure, a Toyota Camry is pricey when compared to the competition. It's a lot slower than the competition. Yet that's not why people buy Toyotas, or I would think.

I have a friend who bought a BXZ4, or whatever it's called. I should ask him how much he likes his.

 

Car&Driver got the 2025 Camry to 60mph in 6.8sec. Today's family sedans aren't slow. Neither is the bZ4x.

The charging restrictions could mean the battery lasts longer than others. It also limits the BEV's ability to be a full replacement to an ICE car. The BEVs that can do that are around the same over $40k price as the bZ4X. For local, second car use, there are BEVs that are thousands less.

Some will buy it for the Toyota name, but that isn't enough to make it a big seller in the segment.

 

If you're a Star Wars Storm Trooper, that's your vehicle.

 

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Nice Car from Don Henley song In the garden of Allah.
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Songfacts®:

• Don Henley (from an AOL Chat): "The song is basically about the growing inability of people to recognize evil. It is about the age of Cultural Relativism that we are living in. The title is taken from an old Hollywood apartment/hotel that existed from the late 20's until the late 50's." >>

some history of the original Estate on the Sunset Strip in Hollywood during what locals referred to as the Golden Years.
The Garden of Allah: The hotel with Hollywood's greatest secrets:

I like the song (what else is there to say) !

 

• You can't pay more
• And get less

Bob Wilson