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Reaching 200k Miles

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by MelonPrius, Jul 23, 2024.

  1. MelonPrius

    MelonPrius Senior Member

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    I have 120k miles on my '14 and will probably get a new OEM hybrid battery. However, I'd hate to repair/swap my head gaskets/engine before hitting 200k. I've read advice here about extending the life of the engine, but wanted to double check.

    I had my EGR and related components cleaned at 90k and it was relatively clean. I'm going to change my water pump, even though it might be earlier than needed. I've read about the oil catch can but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

    I have been changing my oil at 5k intervals and no longer need to add any oil between oil changes. My first 7-8 oil changes were at 10k intervals and I needed to add a bit of oil around 7-8k miles.

    I had one rough start on a very cold morning last winter, but that was the only time. I rarely drive faster than 70 mph and usually drive on side roads. What are the odds of hitting 200k miles (all of my previous Toyotas hit this benchmark but this is the first Toyota with a reputation of HG issues. My '14 does not have the improved pistons/rings that came out in the later cars that year.

    Outside of routine maintenance, is it worth doing anything else to extend that life of my engine? TIA
     
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    Due to where I live I have to swap out my tires every October and April [summer tires / winter studds], I do oil changes at the same time. I have never seen either of our vehicles needing replacement oil.

    My 2011 Gen3 is over 200K miles. No major issues.

    My 2017 Prime plugin is over 150K. No major issues.

    They have both gone through brake pads and booster pumps, but otherwise nothing.

    the bodies are very brittle now, I assume they get brittle from UV. Undercarriage skid plates, and wheel well liners are all gone.
     
  3. MelonPrius

    MelonPrius Senior Member

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    ForestBeekeeper, do you have the original hybrid battery on your '11?
     
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    Odds of a repair free hg at 200k with 120k now is reasonable but I would not bet the farm on it.

    I would change the coolant now and then every 50k miles.

    I would verify you have the latest ecm software which can be determined with an online Techstream or at a dealer.

    If you start burning a lot of oil it might be time to consider a rebuilt engine partially for hg and equally to save your catalytic converter.
     

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    Yes.
     
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    I would say in those 150 170 just touching near 200k and everything is working good You should be trading that car in and getting maximum return on what value there is left with no fender liners plastics and whatnot shockingly idiots will pay a good amount of money for a yard ornament something they'll put 5 7 10,000 mi on it it blows up and then it sits out front or you can be the person with it sitting out in front of your place just however you want to handle it seems to me the smart people have learned that about 150 160 they want to be starting over again whether they get a new payment on a Gen 4 or 5 Go to a Corolla hybrid go to an electric doesn't really matter the choice The point is is that these planned obsolescence vehicles seem to do very well to about 150 170 somewhere right in there Why would I want to push it when the company who's manufacturing the product is got plans already in place for what's going to happen for the most part that wasn't in place in 1985 in my Supra and what have you but it is very well in place for what y'all are messing with today July would kind of heed those warnings possibly maybe not some people this is a very enjoying hobby and this is fun or something along those likes when you work in computers and electronics all day and you don't get out to the garage much or something this can be fun I understand.
     
  7. Mendel Leisk

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    Consider cleaning again, say by 150k. I’d have a healthy scepticism of the completeness of “professional” cleaning; DIY the next, or at the least oversee what and how they’re doing it. More info in my signature (on a phone turn it landscape to see signatures).

    now is a good time for the water pump.
     
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    EGRs appear to be related to a common issue. So it makes sense to check and clean them on occasion.

    Head gaskets appear to be a common issue. So it makes sense at the first sign of a possible head gasket failure to immediately replace the head gasket. Do not ignore it, do not put it off.

    The drive batteries do eventually wear out, and they lack any comprehensive self-diagnostic ability. I had just assumed that since my PC has the ability to check its battery 'health' [90% healthy, or 80% healthy, etc] that a hybrid should have the same ability. I was in error. That is disappointing.

    On the other hand, I have owned many previous vehicles. In most cases, I had no idea of what failures to anticipate. Now I am driving two vehicles with very well-documented failure issues. So at least I am aware of what I should be watching.
     
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    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

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    Dr Prius app can check. Ditto for Tech$tream.
     
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    Ok, so I should do another EGR cleaning at 150k miles. It was done at Hybrid Pit, and they specialize in that. They don't clean the exact components, per se, but they replace the parts with cleaned parts from a previous Prius.

    The water pump is tricky. I had a previous thread here where I was convinced to stay with the original one since it still works. My mechanic also talked me out of changing the water pump if the original one is still working. My problem is that I don't know the warning signs of a faltering water pump- can someone advise me on this?

    What is the benefit of changing the coolant at 50k miles and will that extend the life of the engine?

    My Dr Prius app shows 38% life left but my last tank was 40 mpg (calculated), which was around 25% off my lifetime average.

    Thanks for the feedback.
     
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    Yes, old coolant can, also, ruin a head gasket as it gets acidic as it ages. I change out all ours every 5-years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first.
     
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    After initial enginescoolant change at 100k miles (or 10 years, whichever comes first), Toyota recommends subsequent changes at 50k miles (or 5 years, whichever comes first)

    just from reports here, 3rd Gen water pumps tend to fail, starting around 150k miles, or even sooner.
     
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    Thanks. It seems as my 150k maintenance will consist of EGR cleaning, coolant change, and probably a water pump change. That’ll be in 2 years for me.

    I know I can look this up myself, but is there other maintenance required between now and 150k miles?
     
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    Do we have any "Testimony/Data" on replacing the water pump impeller/rotor only?? .....