Ordered 4 Denso TPMs for about $40 each (way cheaper vs local dealership), all Sold and Shipped by Amazon. Received 3 out of 4 fake generic no name pos, similar sensors sold on fleabay for about $30 set of 4. Kept 1, returned 3 .., unbelievable experience…
You can buy a set of 4 TPMS aftermarket sensors for less than $40 and they work fine... But instead you're paying someone to do that for you via a scam and now you got all the lost time doing return hassles as well as having lost $120? This set of four "OEM" TPMS cost $34: Set of 4 OEM TPMS Tire Pressure Monitor Sensors For Lexus Scion Toyota | eBay These are standard parts across all Toyota and Lexus that are mass produced by many companies. It makes zero difference which ones you buy.
Aftermarket Tpsm are not very reliable in terms of functionality, fals positive warnings here and there.., plus they don’t last more than 3 years top. Many will fail in about 15 months or so. My OEM sensors lasted 12 years. I don’t pay any one, extra $15 sensore swap in my local tiers center then 3 min programming via techstream in my own garage.
The cheapo ones in the OP's photo are clearly even missing the potting compound. Doesn't seem great for longevity....
Trust me, they all fake, made from household electronic components - not auto-grade. Some of them don’t even match sensors ID printed on sensor casing. They all pure junk and waste of money. ps. Amazon refund my money but refused to post 1 star review .. lol
Actually they have , more like extremely clear bathroom silicone or something so it’s not very visible on pictures.
An electronic device that sends a signal if tire pressure gets low is not a performance part... Clearly, there's no such thing as a high performance TPMS. As in they're all junk wether OEM or not. In general, I've found that if a car part is identical for most all Lexus & Toyota that it's wise to make your purchasing decision on low price rather than OEM or quality. Of course, I could be wrong... We'd have to test lifespan of Denso OEM vs. aftermarket TPMS to be sure.
I didn't realize denso printed boxes for them because they're made by Pacific and it looks like the Pacific logo and all the stuff is there It does look like the silicone or the potting material or whatever is not like factory or what I took out of my car which was factory wasn't as clear and legible can't see the battery that kind of thing but other than that they pretty much look the same these have QR codes on them My factory did not
I will try to explain in plain human language. Electronic components made in various grade for different purpose and applications - meaning temperature range, durability, current consumption etc… Denso OEM is Toyota supplier. If you want go aftermarket then at least stick with we’ll know brand like Autel but you won’t save a lot of $ vs true OEM. Fakes from fleabay usually fail under 6 months, some within first few weeks or even dead on arrival. Denso / Toyota OEM TPMs will outlast any well know aftermarket sensor by at least 2x-3x times.
I think when you take them out of the package that's where the denso ends I don't think on these black parts of these TPMS sensors fakes or not denso is applied. If you look on the back of your center caps of your wheels you'll see the word Pacific these are the people that make all the tire and wheel trim for the particular model of car that you're dealing with that has the center caps with these letters on the back the TPMS sensors have the same letters and red or green in the logo depending upon what car you're working with I don't think I see dead so on the sensor at all.
The one I recently got from a Toyota dealer says Pacific Industrial Co. Ltd. along the lower left edge (of the side with the printing). In the photo in the OP, the one that isn't counterfeit appears to say the same thing in the same place.
Yes they all Pacific Industrial Co.Ltd, at least this is true for Toyota and Honda. Many fakes also have ‘Pacific Industrial’ stamped on sensor. There couple of minor differences as of today where I can tell by naked eye - fake vs OEM but I not going to discuss about it here.
To make a claim like that without any reference link or basic logic or even anecdotal evidence as to why there could be such a huge difference sounds like you're just making stuff up... I've spent more than a decade on here buying the cheapest most junk quality spare parts and fixing people's Prius and am almost never disappointed. And sure occasionally a $30 inverter pump doesn't last as long as a $170 inverter pump, but I got 140 reason for why its worth the risk, especially when I pass that savings on to the people who's cars I work on. With a near free replacement if there's premature failiure, I might add. And yes, sometimes cheap ignition coils don't last as long as expensive ones, but I've found that the heavier the coils are, the better quality they are and that price is all over the map regardless of weight and so are claims of being OEM. As in real life experience, trying the cheap stuff is the best way to find out and people too often throw their money away paying 5 times as much for stuff that's no different than the cheap stuff, especially when you're talking about Prius that are 10 to 20 years old and are nearing the end of their lifespan anyways. I mean, do you really need a TPMS sensor to last 15 years instead of only 8 years when the cars we're talking about are older than that?
I have reference from my own experience and managing 30+ security vehicles fleet, mostly hybrids. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone - take it or leave it. No TPMS sensor will last 8 years ( in most cases not even half of that ) unless it's true Denso / Toyota OEM part.
I've spent more than a decade on here buying the cheapest most junk quality spare parts and fixing people's Prius and am almost never disappointed. This has to be the absolute worst self-promotion I've ever read. There are better ways to word that. What people want is a reliable car where they can just hop in, turn it on and get where they want to go, without breaking down, here or there. Every car I work on gets treated as if it were for my wife, son or nieces. Price doesn't matter, high, medium or low, only quality and dependability matters. "the cheapest most junk quality spare parts" does not and should not fit that requirement. Good quality parts can be found for reasonable prices. I've even seen 70% price differences for OEM Toyota parts between local dealers. I've never had a counterfeit part from Rock Auto. I've even gotten $65 ICWPs from Toyota dealers online that were clearing out leftover OEM ICWP kits from the recall campaign. I never buy from local parts stores unless it's a crisis due to their crazy markup.
Are the black valve stem caps a dead giveaway? The dealer collected my caps at the cars first scheduled free service and the regular schrader caps don't really fit on dem dare stems to nice like.
Our 2010’s build date was August 2009, all TPMS sensors still functioning. When they do quit, I’m going to do squat, just carry on. AFAIK that’s still legal up here. To be fair in the States tire shops are obligated to ensure vehicles leave with functional TPMS? Just for comparison: last time I checked, genuine Mazda sensors were around $35 CDN apiece, and self-initializing. Maybe require a first introduction by dealership, not sure. Apparently for Gen 5 Prius Toyota’s finally made them self-initializing?
Depending on the state you're in. My state (NC) does not require them to be functional...I use an old fashioned tire pressure guage. Tire shops are not obligated to do anything. It's the state "safety" inspection that may require them to be functional.
This link is specific to Canada, home of laxer rules regarding TPMS, and even so, tire shops are asking for clarification: Tire dealers seek clarity on TPMS - Auto Service World US link, even stickier, and reading through it, quite bewildering, trying to make sense of it: Dealing With the Legalities of TPMS: ‘Ignorance of the Law is No Excuse’ | 2017-04-20 | Modern Tire Dealer