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Build Hybrid Battery Maintenance Gear For Under $100

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by PriusCamper, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. JON KIRKEGAARD

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    Will a CBA II load test an data log? Or do I need a new version?

    What is the Ah of a single 8.2V module?
     
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    I don't have a CBA II but from my own research, it should data log if you connect it to PC.

    If you just want to load test a module, all you need is 12v/55w light bulb. Sylvania Xtravision 9003 H4 would work perfectly, especially if you connect two light bulb together = 55w+60w (high beam + low beam) = 115w/8v = 14-16 Amps of current, which is enough to load test a module. The pack of 2 light bulbs at Walmart should be around 20$.

    The initial voltage of a module is 7.2v, there is 6 NiMH cells inside of a module, each cell is 1.2v. The Ah of new module is 6.5Ah, after years of use, it can drop to anywhere from few hundreds to 4000-5000mAh. Hope this helps)
     
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    Thanks, I've been doing a 50 W load test and trying to record voltage drops every 5 minutes and recording 2 A charge voltages up to 14 V then separating back to the single battery and charging it to 8V at 1.5A. Very long process, and easy to miss the 6 V stop point.
     
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    So, you are trying to cycles all the modules to regain some capacity by charging and discharging?
     
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    Cleaned the nuts bus bars and battery connections with CLR and yes tiring to find any bad batteries and regain some capacity.
     
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    Hey guys, since you guys are charger experts you'd know better than me.....Id like to build one of these but it feels a bit over my head. Someone local to me bought a barely used MaxxVolt for $200 used it once and willing to sell it to me for $150. Would there be a substantial difference between the DIY setup versus the MaxxVolt?

    Also, would it be worth it to hold out for a used Prolong and pay more for it?

    Is there a substantial difference in the charging method between DIY, Prolong, MaxxVolt? At the end do they all get the same results?

    Thanks!
     
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    I wouldn't think so.
    Yup.
    I don't think there is a lot of merit to doing that.
    That sounds like a good deal.

    The difference would be your capabilities verses having a turnkey solution ready to go. You're talking about $50 for that advantage.
     
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    Thanks for that info! Sorry it took me so long to get back, we've been helping my daughter move. Do you know if there's a difference between the dischargers from MaxxVolt/Prolong versus just the two light bulb method? Their dischargers are expensive so surely they do something like drain in some kind of way that helps the battery?? I guess do they run the fan while discharging?
     
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    That's no problem, sometimes life happens!

    I can't offer any advice/knowledge about either discharger as I use light bulbs. I don't think they do anything special or magical. They do, however, allow the process to run unsupervised and keep everything within the correct parameters of current and voltage cutoff – and they do run the fan. Although, using low current (as I do – 2000 mA down to 250 mA), it shouldn't cause any heat-related issues.

    I hope that helps some.
     
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    Hey man, I have a Maxx Volts Grid Charger and as a discharger i use two lightbulbs connected together. The Prolong discharger is a good one because you don't need to babysit a battery during the entire discharge process, but if you have a limited budget you can build one for $30-$40 bucks.
     
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    The cheapest way to do a discharger is to go to Dollar Tree, buy 2 Night Light (for $3.25 or so) connect one wire from one light to another wire from the other light (see the picture) now either way you can do what I did or connect the end of the wire straight to the battery. What i did instead of connecting them straight to the battery is, I connected them to the end of a plug (you can use the same that you cut off earlier), I got a cheapest extension cord from Home Depot cut the end of it and then connected an O-ring terminals to it. Now I can connect ring terminals to the battery, put a plug into extension cord and that's works well for me. You would also need 2 x 200 watt incandescent light bulbs and 2 x 25 watt incandescent light bulbs (about 20$ in Home Depot), you can try and look for 75's but I didn't find them. Also I recommend watching some videos before doing all of this, just for the sake of safety.
     

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    Here some more pictures.

    P. S. Remember this is high voltage, be extra careful especially if this is your first time working on something like this.
     

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