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Home Charging without GFCI and bad sine waves ... Mexico

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prime Charging' started by Wieland, Jan 25, 2024.

  1. Wieland

    Wieland New Member

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    I have a 24 XSE and have not yet charged it at home. This car will be a Mexico car and will stay down here in Kino Bay. The houses here do not ground anything and there is no such thing as GFCI or clean sine wave electricity. We fluctuate from 108 volts to 120 ish through the house. My wife has a Tesla and a wall charger and no issues. Anyone have any experience with a 240v ish charger at home in Mexico? I can't use her charger because it doesn't fit into my car. Also, she doesn't want me parking on her side of the garage . I have an "electrician" hooking up a level two charger next week but it's anyone's guess ... anyone got the scoop onthe BMS and charger that is inside the Prius? Can it handle this? Lots of Teslas here ... but I haven't seen ANY other Primes in Mexico so far. I know an option is to install a line conditioner ... but not willing to go through all that just to charge this car. I'll sell it and get something else before I do that.
     
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    if the tesla will charge without problem, the prime should be fine
     
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    I'd contact the manufacturer of the Level 2 EVSE you're planning to install and find out what the max voltage fluctuation and rated Hz / kHz frequency range specs are for that particular EVSE.
    What's the guy / electrician that's installing the EVSE recommend ?
     
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    Surely there must be some kind of fail safe? The "electrician" shows up on a bicycle... with one screw driver and a basket of cables. Somehow the Tesla Wall works ... we will give it a shot and see what happens. I'll update this post once I'm done and I have some data.
     
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    Electrician shows up on bicycle w basket of wires.... LMAO
     
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    Expectations are different all around the world, I'd think that a guy who installed a Tesla wall charger would have enough cash by now to at least show up riding an electric bicycle, have a wire cutter or two and a pair of pliers.
     
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    Japan runs 100VAC, where your car is manufactured. They've gotten really good at producing some of the worlds best electronics. I'm guessing variations between 108-120 isn't going to effect your OEM charger. I'd be more concerned with the warranty and specifications of the 220VAC wall charger your installing. How well it will handle surges, droops, and drop-outs of your line power.
    Since labor is fairly cheap there; I'd get an estimate on how much it would cost to install an earth ground spike and ground all my high dollar electronics to it. All metal water pipes are an option, but if your in a newly built subdivision, chances are the in-wall and underground water pipes are plastic. Consider earth ground as an emergency dump valve for failures in your neutral wire or lighting strikes. Well worth it, if your electronics isn't covered by insurance.

    Hope this helps....
     
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  8. Wieland

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    I installed a ground to earth and a line conditioner (spendy little gadget) … it seems to work fine so far. Appreciate the input. Integrating solar is the next step.
     
    #8 Wieland, Feb 18, 2024
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