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Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Technical Discussion' started by sender31, Sep 1, 2023.

  1. sender31

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    New to the forum...Just purchase a 2023 Prius SE....It is my third Toyota Hybrid..During the first 1100 miles of city county and 120 miles of 75 to 80 on the interstate..average miles per gallon is 61...amazing.

    It always seems that any large purchase like cars trucks houses etc.,...I learn something new..This is most likely the first car/truck that I did not open the hood to look at the motor before signing on the dotted line...nothing really inspiring to look at..just a lot of plumping I will never be able to work on..

    Following the initial excitement of driving the new car i began the lets see how everything fits together....
    When I had a look at the engine compartment i noted a small anomaly on what I would guess is the lifter cover..
    Maybe a heat related thing...either external but maybe internal..could be a manufacturing / separating the plastic from the mold..just not sure..the service department at the dealer where the car was purchase are scratching their heads..Anybody here have a theory.
    Thanks IMG_2318.jpg
     
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    Update... the cover actually is I believe aluminum and not plastic..so it would be heat damage to the paint on the cover.. I think
     
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    This looks familiar to me. Maybe someone else had a similar issue? Strange.
     
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    What I should have titled this thread to read, " Does the top of your 2023 Prius motor look like this "....

    Thanks
     
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    report your post and ask the mod to change it
     
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    That looks like plastic, looking at the mount screw. I wouldn’t want a dealer shop to put a new one on, from my life experience. Better if left alone it doesn’t matter, for me anyway. Looks like a molding roughness. I mean, it’s only assembled from new at the factory in Japan once, and this is , to me, nothing more than character.
    From curiosity I looked this up and here is one that may be the same from a Corolla on ebay. Quite a valve cover.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/314668489878?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=314668489878&targetid=4580153136941811&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=437225722&mkgroupid=1224856224320848&rlsatarget=pla-4580153136941811&abcId=9300906&merchantid=51291&msclkid=f400c60ff23f15f968e7a2faafd1d60b
     
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    Thanks Mr. Vanvanden...I thought it was plastic at first..not sure now..lot of heat up there for plastic...thinking now it is aluminum with the finish/paint looking like heat damage...maybe...waiting for a read from Toyota..
     
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    Valve covers on the Dynamic Force engines are plastic.

    I agree with daisy that someone posted something identical to this a month or three ago.
     
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    Thanks...will scan previous post...
     
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    I found same issue on my friend 2023 prius xle. Will it cause any major issue in the future if we leave as is? What is the solution? Look like all prius has this same exact issue.
     
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    I believe(stress: believe) it's purely cosmetic and nothing to be worried about. They've been making this exact same part for a few years now(it's also used on the Lexus UX series), so if there were any real problems with it, I think we'd have seen them by now and Toyota would've corrected them already. And Toyota has been using slightly different versions of this valve cover since about 2017 on the A25A engine.

    If problems do arise, you can be sure this would be taken care of very quicky with a recall. If this part fails because of heat damage, we're going to see oil all over the place in the engine compartment. And if it fails catastrophically, every light on our dash will start screaming at us. Toyota won't be able to ignore that.

    Personally, I'm not going to lose a bit of sleep over this.


    (My guess is that there was a tiny problem with Toyota's injection molding system on this particular part for a production run. Maybe the release agent was applied either too much or not enough in that corner of the mold. I've got a friend who works as a supervisor at a company that does injection molding, and I'll show her the picture the next time I see her to get her opinion.)
     
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    Thank you for detail response. I agree with you. Please let me know after you talk to your friend about molding. Thank you!
     
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    Yeah I think someone else did report the same anomaly. "First world" problem?

    It is refreshing to see an engine top without a plastic cover, btw.
     
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    Personally, I'm surprised Toyota didn't put the engine under a medium sized cover like the Gen 4, which I never liked.

    On this though, it looks more like a manufacturing defect. If it was gonna start melting, it would melt where the cover sits on the gasket on top of the mating surface. That's where the heat would be most intense.
     
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    I think also it is a manufacturing defect. Any of you folks that have a 2023 model and have time to take a pic of your engine cover and post it.... it is appreciated.

    thanks
     
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    There's no room for an engine cover. I found out the hard way. Lol

    I bought a cover for the Lexus UX250 because they use the same valve cover, but there's not enough room for it. The engine in the Prius is mounted further back than the Lexus and partially under the cowl.

    So now I've got an engine cover sitting in my garage that's absolutely worthless to me. Lol

    SM-S901U ?
     
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    I found the same exact issue on Toyota Carola 2.0 engines that are made in Japan.
     
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    Photo of mine, attached. Definitely plastic. Exactly the same pattern, rough spot. 500 miles, maybe 15 on the ICE. Probably came that way. Now that I look through the engine bay, lot of plastic in there.

    IMG_2242.jpg
     
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    So @sender31 I took a closer look at your picture, and mine cover. Exact match, same small tick marks, everything the same. So it was definitely from the mold. Picture below is my cover.

    IMG_2245.jpg
     
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    This looks like typical injection molding warpage.