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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Hummmm, if I could get one before September 30, I could transfer my FSD to the new Model 3. So my options:
    • KEEP OLDER EVS - 2019 Model 3 Standard Range Plus and 2017 BMW i3-REx. This keeps me in self-maintenance mode and modifications I get to experiment with both cars to extend life and performance.
    • ADD NEW MODEL 3 - trade-in either the 2019 Model 3 or 2017 BMW i3-REx for the new Model 3. Self maintenance on the retained, older car and HOOT HOOT the new Model 3. But ordering one, there is a risk of getting an 'inventory' Model 3, not the new one.
    Regardless, the older Model 3 has just become a buyer's market. Tesla wants to dispose of the suddenly older Model 3s to promote selling the new Model 3s. When that happened with Macintosh, I always bought the fire sale priced, older model.

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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Dump das Beemer.
    Wait until you're certain of a 3.1 model.

    An engineer with a 3.0 and a 3.1 model would be PC 'solid GOLD.'
    Besides....a cold-eyed, slightly fan-boyish long term battery degradation study here in PC would also be a boon for the community.

    I'm presuming most of your flights are just doing patterns at the local field with the occasional cross-country flight.
    One of the things that concerns me about a BEV would be the quarterly burst of fast DC charging - which seems to align with your use case.

    SO....

    For selfish reasons I'm voting for you to keep the 3.0.
    A data rich, real-world 2019-2024 ownership sample would be illuminating.
     
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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Any particular reasons?

    Other than the BMW i3-REx, I have no interest in other BMW models. They have have modest performance at a premium price. Getting a BMW i3-REx for $15k whose sale price would have been closer to $51k, was a real bargain.

    Aging the BMW battery means my Tesla battery 'gets a rest' for a longer life. The BMW is also right-sized for an urban car with plenty of scoot ... a City car with Highway privileges. As for self maintenance, BMW and Tesla are in a race to the bottom as I found Toyota to be in the running too.

    What did I miss?

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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    It seemed to be one of the three choices.

    I personally love the idea of a dual-fuel vehicle, and the i-rex fits, but comparing the iphone with an iphone 3G was also illuminating.
    My first iphone was a re-manned 6, and my first NEW-bought iphone was an XR - a disastrous model that nearly led to a brand divorce.
    My current phones are a 13 and a 13-pro - the latter being a company model.

    Point is....
    I knew more about apples than most owners for years before I bought one because others illuminated that path before me.
     
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    what is tesla willing to give you on your m3?
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Last time I checked, I had to have a Tesla on order before I could share pictures and get a trade-in value. I'll check again but pretty sure I'd have to put up a deposit.

    Using Edmunds, they estimated $14-18k. With 115k miles, they are not in high demand. Apparently, other folks are fearful of high mileage EVs so I got a 2017 BMW i3-REx with 57k mi for $15k. Of course it was sold by a Florida Toyota dealer.

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    kbb shows the top of the line prime at 16-18, and toyotas are supposed to hold their value
     
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    Can you surmise what the updates are on the new model three that just got released? Anything big? I’ve been meaning to watch the new videos
    That just came out on YouTube about it but haven’t got around to it yet.

    We might be in the market for a new M3, or potentially one of the old ones if they drastically reduced in price and if there are any left in the next 6-8 months or so for my wife. My daughter will be taking full time command of our Hyundai ionic hybrid around that time.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    The front has been cleaned up by removal of the side cheeks and smoothing bends and curves to easier gradients. This reduces the energy lost to the airstream which is partially recovered by the body taper. There are some comments about the variable air inlet vanes but nothing definitive. Also, the wheels appear to block more of the air flow through the spokes, a significant energy loss.

    My understanding is the front and rear are still built from stamped and welded steel like the older Model 3. But they may have figured out how to reduce weight and parts count.

    The definitive answer will come from Munro Associates once they get their hands on one. They'll probably have to air ship it. As for me, I'll wait for the EPA metrics which may take awhile.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Understood. Thx for the info.

    I guess the mythical and rumored 500 mile ranged Tesla is still a myth then.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    You should never tease a '1000 mi tank' previous Prius owner with a challenge like that!

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    No more turn signal levers - there are "buttons" on the wheel now.
     
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    maybe they'll be easier to reach and used more often