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wagon vs hatchback

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by hedron, Aug 17, 2023.

  1. hedron

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    What are the differences between the two? Is there more trunk space in the wagon? The dashboard seems less cluttered. But I haven't actually seen one in person, since virtually no dealer in my area has either.

    Also, what's the difference between the trims? One, Two, Three, Four, etc.
     
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    i think of a wagon as a more fully vertical back door, with a smaller opening. haven't hadone in almost forty years.
    if you mean the v, i think it is supposed to stand for volume or versatile. the rear seat slides forward to make more space in the back.
    you should be able to find the packages at toyota.com/owners
     
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    From 2012 to 2017 Toyota sold the Prius v wagon in the US. So the wagon is gen 3 technology, while the current hatchback is gen 5 tech.

    Trim levels will vary by model year.
     
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    So, they're both the same engine and weight, but for some reason the hatchback gets ~50 mpg and the wagon ~40 mpg. I don't get it? Or is it just the specs on the website are inaccurate?

    Can you fold the rear seats in the hatchback? Does it affect/restrict the movement of the drivers/passengers seats?

    I remember owning a 1983 Volvo 240 wagon and folding the rear seats didn't affect the foreseats too much, but my moms 201x Suburu Outback did. I wish I still had that old Volvo, but w/e.
     
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    I was referring to edmunds specs. I can't post links for some stupid reason, so you'll just have to search for them yourself. I tried.
     
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    i believe the v has a different gear ratio to pull more weight, but it affects mpgg's.

    yes, you can fold the rear seats down. i'm not that tall, so it doesn't affect my front seat positioning.

    you could remove the head rests for more clearance if necessary
     
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    There's the third gen Prius (hatchback), and similar Prius v (larger/roomier hatchback as well, what you're referring to as "wagon"). The Prius v is definitely heavier, has heavier wheels/tires, and a more boxy shape, effecting air resistance.

    Maybe do responders a favour, be more specific about your location?
     
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    Because the Prius v wagon is heavier, larger, less aerodynamic and higher off the ground, it needs more torque. The final drive ratio is shorter (top speed is 103 mph vs 115) to accelerate the same as the hatchback.

    So it has higher RPM while cruising, reducing mpg.
     
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    In addition to a higher numerical final drive ratio, the v has stronger ac, special brake booster firmware for pitch and bounce control, bigger standard tires, suspension, hubs and brakes. Plus more cargo space, a back seat that slides and reclines and a Prius without a split rear window. It also has extra transaxle cooling.

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    In other countries it was spec’d for towing based on the upgrades. Taxi operators and customers loved them and they were sold almost unchanged in some countries until 2021. The overseas models had lithium batteries and could seat seven with the battery under the center console.

    The hybrid Rav4 killed the v in the US.
     
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    There were only three trims on the v, 2,3 and 5.

    The v5 had 17” wheels, led headlights, homelink and “leather”. V5s could be optioned with the advanced technology packages like Radar Cruise and Pre-collision braking much like today’s cars.

    The v3 had a mfd with nav which was missing from the basic v2.
     

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