Do these support PD? PPS? What voltage and power limits are supported? Anything about these in the New Car Features manual? (Is that manual out yet?)
Limited to only 3A at 5V according to the manual. https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/om-s/OM47E41U/pdf/OM47E41U.pdf pgs. 379-80
Well, the limits aren't likely to be the actual bulkhead connectors. Probably won't take much to rig up a better supply backing those sockets. I'm thrilled that cabin electronics are only about 5 years behind the times now. Used to be more like 10.
The real question is what will the wattage be? My 2017 barely charges my phone 10% in like an hour, sucks. what on earth are you guys gonna be plugging into those 6 ports? i guess I see the utility if you have 3 passengers with you but thats a lot of ports lol
15W is better than the trickle charge you got in gen4 but when there are phones out there that can handle 100W+ fast charging. As long as they've got a 12v cigarette lighter plug then you can still use fast charging that way. With wireless AA and Carplay at least you aren't stuck with the low speed port in the car.
Yeah, 3A ✕ 5V is 15 watts. Better than the 2.5 W trickle of the original USB spec, but a far cry from the 240 W possible in USB PD 3.1.
They're spread out in a smart way. Besides the Qi charger, there are two logical places in the front where you can store electronic devices. Up under the dash, and under the armrest. Both locations have two ports available. That means you don't need USB cords hanging all over the place. And the last two ports are for the back seats on the back of the center console. It's not so much that you'd ever need six ports at the same time, as there are three places to have devices(front, middle, and rear) and there could be two people with devices at any of those three places. Six is really the minimum number of ports.
My experience going back and forth between kentucky and tennessee multiple times (2.5 hours each way) is that my phone (samsung fold 3), using wireless android auto and connected to the front power port, is able to slowly increase in charge while being used for navigation and music. It is quite a slow charge, but it is there. I wouldn't mind trying my hand at upgrading the electronics to support some form of quick-charge, though, once there's more information available about it. Especially since the wireless charger seems to be on the weak side and doesn't like to stay "connected" to my phone.
It'd be nice if the c sockets could be used for anything other than charge ports. I had to lookup type c pd ver 3 for power specs USB Type-C PD 3.0 Specification, Charging and Design - EDN single infineon chip design Table 3 Charging times are compared between PD 3.0 and PD 2.0 ready mobile devices. Source: Infineon see diagram that belongs here on the linked web page USB PD 3.0 charger design Infineon has two USB controller solutions that are suitable for implementing PPS chargers: CCG3PA and PAG1P + PAG1S. CCG3PA CCG3PA, shown in Figure 3, is a USB PD controller for DC/DC automotive chargers. It features an integrated 32-bit Arm Cortex-M0 processor, 64-KB flash, 8-KB RAM, a built-in USB Type-C transceiver, two ADCs, two programmable communication interfaces, four timer modules, integrated feedback control circuitry for voltage regulation, and hardware blocks for implementing the PPS constant voltage and constant current mode. Figure 3 The block diagram shows the major building blocks of the USB PD controller. Source: Infineon there is another diagram that belongs here . see on the infineon web page. The infineon two chip design is further down the page with links to more info at the bottom of the page. Than there is thunderbolt https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/thunderbolt/thunderbolt-4-vs-usb-c.html for those who need to be standing on the edge, looking down - listening to van halen Ain't talken bout love - and how it differs from USB-c. At least there's a type c connector,, now all we need is a car with a 50 qubits quantum computer to handle the future for us. gotta love qubit pairs. I think cars might catch up in the next ten years, if we are still driving them.
