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When I've personally known 3 people ran over by big SUV's in just the past year (and serveral more over the years) I can't believe it to be only drama. ABC also did a report where they showed road safety (rate of people dying per million miles driven) has actually gotten worse in recent years and the reason is quite obvious: bigger heavier vehicles.

 

Is this the report you are referring to (Over 46,000 people died on US roads in 2021, report finds amid traffic increase - ABC News (go.com))? It is a year old.
If not, can you give me anything more to go on?

 

Old VWs with magnesium engine blocks needed a back hoe to dig a hole when they caught fire.

The hazardous part of a car fire is from all the plastics, and those can be lit up shorts in the 12V system.

Did they at least ban that stupid trend of just putting a big lift on the front, so the the driver can enjoy the clouds?

 

covid has played apart in increased accidents. drivers mental health has crumbled, a lot of road rage and speeding.
would i rather get hit by a gasser? i'd rather not get hit at all

 

Good news is that more & more cars have collision avoidance systems. Those include collisions with pedestrians. Undoubtedly they will become mandatory very soon. That will put a big dent in the CBS network drama over ev's vs pedestrians &/or ev's vs other vehicles ..... when in fact the real issue is clueless unaware not paying attention pedestrians & all cars
vs all cars.
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BEVs are heavier. Does it make that much of a difference between BEVs and ICEVs? I don't know. Weight affects not only the inertial mass, but also the handling. Some small cars may have a good track record for safety, not because they're built well for safety in comparison to an SUV, but because it's much easier to avoid an accident in them.

For some reason I can't find it right now. It was a YouTube video.

 

chevy bolt = 3,600 lbs

honda cr-v = 3,400 lbs

honda cr-v hybrid = 3,650

it isn't likely to make a difference in an accident

 

Tesla Midel 3 Std Rng Plus, 3,800 lbs with 230 lb driver, three small dogs, and tool box. Measured on CAT scales with OEM wheels and tires.

Bob Wilson

 

wow, that's pretty light!

is that with an empty tank?

 

Nissan Leaf = 3,516 lbs
Nissan Leaf Plus = 3,856 lbs
Tesla Model 3 = 3,648 lbs
Mini Cooper SE Electric = 3,144 lbs


Toyota Corolla = 2,850 lbs
Nissan Kicks = 2,682 lbs
Hyndai Elantra = 2,868 lbs
Honda Civic = 2,877 lbs
Hyundai Accent = 2,679 lbs
Kía Forte = 2,989 lbs
Mini Cooper Hardtop = 2,712 lbs

 

toyota land cruiser = 7,385 lbs

 

Hummer EV = 9,063 lbs

 

you're proving my point

 

That vehicles aren't massless? Or that EV's generally weigh more?

What I miss:
1966 VW Beetle = 1,672 lbs

 

Sure, but don't compare modern EVs by that yardstick. Compare them to other modern cars.
More modern Beetles ran around 3,000 pounds.
BTW, my Mini Cooper SE weighs 3,143 pounds

 

What I miss: 1970 Porsche 914-4 2072 pounds (rust not included)

What I drive: 2019 Rav4 hybrid (not prime ) 3890 pounds

 

that the concern should be vehicle weight, not ev's

that the concern should be vehicle noise (or lack thereof) not ev's

 

BZ4X = 4,400Lbs

Model Y = same as BZ .... weather long range or performance

'59 caddy = 4,800Lbs & no collision avoidance features

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True, but I was referring to a fun car to drive for me. Modern cars are too lardy to be fun to drive. They don't let you feel the road, hear the road, and they're all about aim and hope they're heavy enough to save you. I sometimes get excited about modern cars, but then I realize I drive an obese sedan and that's all that's offered anymore, large, obese, heavy lard buckets of vehicles.

Good point!

 

LOL, you haven't driven a MINI have you?
Very subjective, but I never 'felt' the road as well, and enjoyed driving as much as I did when driving my Model 3.
The delay between stepping on the 'gas' and the car lumbering forward is just too much, and too slow to have fun.