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Change normal Prius to plug in

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by Nickfurt, Jun 12, 2023.

  1. Nickfurt

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    Hello everyone, I Have a 2015 Prius and I'm trying to make it have a better EV Range. I dont need high speed every time, as I use it to daily activities. I have my home solar powered, so an PHEV wold be good! As I don't need to pay for electricity. Well. The main problem is that the Prius plug in was never sold in my country and we just can import new cars, vende used ones. My question is: is there a way Wich I can buy Prius Plug in parts and put them in my car so I can turn it in a "Prius plug In" or they are a total different cars? Thanks in advanced!
     
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    There's lots of ways you can boost MPG and overall performance, but trying to drive your hybrid car as an EV will cause your gas engine to run more often. Eventually you will damage the hybrid battery and have to replace it because its not designed for what you're doing to it.

    Just learn about "Pulse & Glide" driving techniques to maximize your MPG and start saving up for a real EV....
     
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    Hello! Thanks for your comment. That's the problem my past car was a Honda CR-V (15mpg city/23 highway) I changed to Prius to improve economy (though I have put a lot of money to change from on to another) now I'm searching a way Wich I can charge the car at home as I mentioned "I don't pay for electricity" we have solar powered energy. Another thing is: in my country you have to put a lot of money (R$ 150k = $30k) to buy the worst EV we have in here. So this is not.an option as you have to pay a percentage of the car every year in taxes (e.g a $30k car will pay $ 1500 tax yearly)
     
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    Simple question.
    Simple answer: NO, not practical and maybe not possible.

    ALL options might not be available to you.......or not economically wise.......
    so pick the best one for YOU and then don't fret over it.
     
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    I was amazed when I first had my Prius and managed to get 1 mile of range EV after coasting off of a highway exit.
    This gave me small taste of the EV experience. But as said, you can only get so much from a stock Prius.

    Say, would it be too much to ask for you to take a picture of your engine.
    I saw where Brazil Prii don't have an EGR system hanging from the driver's side of the engine. Thanks if you can!
    Also what is the ethanol content of your regular gasoline?
     
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    Brazil the land of freedom doesn’t let you import a minor wreck from the first world and rebuild?

    I would think an import of PIP 2012-2015 major components from a salvage car would be the only way to a semi reliable plug in Gen 3 car

    But That is almost as dumb as the us policy


    I didn’t know Brazil had rug widely available, usually e96 aquatious and always 93 RON or better (e25+)

    Is everything still hydrous? That was the main way to lower cost.

    Are you allowed to import new Chinese EVs? Some are only $2500 (us) before shipping and customs.

    Not sure if Brazil is favorable to dual car ownership but you could then have a simple easy to repair NEV (microcar) for local short distance travel and keep your other car for longer drives.

    Also Worth noting cheap antique EVs like the 1981 Comutacar exist that are simple diy projects for short distance travel and could be imported. Likewise it’s probably easier to convert an antique car to a simple electric than your Prius for again short drives. Not sure the diy route ever pays off due to its low reliability though .

    Also check out open inverter forums. You can modify a Genn3 to EV but you either need to be a genius or pay a lot of money to do it.

    https://openinverter.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius_Gen3_Board

    Seems like a more viable option for a Orius with a failed gas engine
     
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    I wouldn't bother converting your regular Prius into a plug-in. I think the best thing you can do to your Prius is to upgrade your HV battery into a lithium one. The 3rd gen plug-in only does 8-12 miles on pure electric. If you do decide to buy an EV, get the newer generations with the longer ranges.
     
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    Why exactly do you think that would be a good idea ?

    So you can have the excitement of seeing the fire department come and try to extinguish
    the burning lithium battery fire before it spreads to your house or other vehicles ?? :eek:

    I'm pretty sure that the scant few who have done that report........little to no verifiable
    improvement in overall efficiency.
     
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    oh no, not again :p
     
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    Yea... As I explained that's not a viable option. You're just gonna have to be patient and wait for price of EVs to come way down. In the meantime you could upgrade to a Project Lithium pack and triple your EV range/improve MPG, but you void the warranty if you use the pack as a plugin because Lithium don't like being overcharged and using it as a plugin would do that.
     
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    After the cost of converting it to Prius gen 3 plugin, you would have spend enough money to buy a new tesla 3 outright
     
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    These guys are liars! :D:LOL:

    For those that got the Lithium Ion Battery | PriusChat

    NexPower Lithium Battery Long Term Update Report | PriusChat

    New Hybrid Battery made by Dr. Prius, apparently. | PriusChat
     
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    Thanks! That's all I can do now... The government here take all the money they can from you...
     
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    I'll take it tomorrow for you. We have 30% allowed by law but most places put more. So not a good gas.
     
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    Well, we can't import nothing here without playing almost 70% on taxes... So not an option..the best ways is to move to U.S kkkk
     
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    Maybe they ARE.
    You and I have no way of knowing for sure.
     
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    Remember like in the movies, Everything lights on fire and explodes

    so $2500 new China EV
    $2500 + $1700 taxes + shipping + customs = ????

    Even with very high taxes wouldn’t you have to also pay the taxes on the parts to convert your Gen 3 anyway?

    Seems like all around you either enjoy what you have or pay big taxes.

    I don’t think you’ll come ahead so might as well wait for something domestic to turn up with improved tech.

    Even with sky high taxes I would think a wrecked plug in or parts might still be an easier proposition than conversion.

    Ah well, good luck
     
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    The Watchjrgo youtube channel has a geo ev with lead acid batteries for $5k. It is conceivable one could change to lithium or just run the lead acid. It even has electric powered ac but its old school separate electric motor driving s conventional ac compressor.

    Most of us pay $1500 in taxes a year or more to drive a car in the US. First its fees like license plates but mostly in gas tax per gallon like Pennsylvania $0.70 and Texas at 0.38.

    In reality required insurance adds quite a bit on top of everything. Plus sales tax of 6-9% when you buy it plus on all maintenance and parts.
     
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    Hello everyone, sorry to revive the post but, good news! I find a friend Wich changed his HV battery and will donate me his old pack so I can test my new idea, Wich is I'll put the "extra modules" in a serial-parallel scheme like in the pic I'll show above, so the voltage of the blade won't change but the AMP get doubled so o can get more MPG from the battery
     
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