Does Prius Prime drive like an EV?

You probably can go seven days or more easily with the 23, all
on ev. At any speed or use the engine won’t kick on if it is in ev mode up to 84 mph, until the battery is depleted. The 23 I bet will be getting 50 miles on ev being reported maybe more. Sounds like you will be wanting to run the engine just to get the oil circulated and run it. Need to use up gas within a year as a fair guess, the Volt would run the engine and burn the gas after a year if the driver didn’t. Another extra a plug in has to think about, but then you can go anywhere anytime without worrying if there is charge to get you somewhere right away. I find the 20 Prime very quiet in ev. It is an ev in ev mode.
In your case in Texas there is also extra cost for ev registration, $200? Not sure if they include plug ins, seems like they wouldn’t. So if gas is $4, that's 50 gals in your favor to use the engine.

 

Once I made the switch to all Amsoil fluids, it was quieter almost ev like.

 

I got my 2018 Prime when the lease ran out on my Leaf so I was coming from a pure EV. The Prime is better FOR ME. Reason is that most of my driving is like you, less than 3 miles. When I take the kids to school it's more like 5 but you get the picture. However I need to make regular trips to places like Seattle (some 240 miles away) and the ability to go in hybrid mode is great. It averages well over 50mpg in those instances. My lifetime MPG is 120. I'm not an EV naysayer but charging the Leaf was kind of a pain and once the free charge period expired it was pretty pricey. Plus at today's hyper inflated dealer markups on EVs it just isn't very cost effective. I TRIED to buy a Bolt EUV and Ironic 5 but everyone around here wanted 5-10K over MSRP.

 

Yeah, don't believe this. The engine in the Gen 4 is neither smooth nor quiet BY DESIGN. Very efficient, yes. EV like, hell no. It's gruff and noisy and vibrates A LOT. You will know the instant it turns on. Plus throttle response takes a huge nosedive when in HV mode. It's much more appealing as an EV than as an HV. This has nothing to do with what magic oils you put into the car but rather the basic design of that atkinson cycle motor.

 

....I agree , the moment the ICE turns on , the throttle response takes a huge nosedive...I mainly use the HV mode on highways for long runs and it is quite quiet at 65Mph, otherwise in EV it is stellar.

 

I do not know, my 2020 prime is pretty quiet I hear the electrics more than the motor most of the time. It's not mercedes quiet. But still pretty darn quiet.

 

When I have to switch from EV to HV, I also switch from Eco mode to Power mode. I find that this makes HV feel a bit more like EV in terms of throttle response.

 

I find that funny. In mine, near as I can tell, the power setting just makes the engine louder and the dash lights red. My kids get a kick out of the red dash. Mostly though I just leave mine in "slow and boring" mode.

 

We're still driving the original 2017 Prius Prime and with the exception of Toyota "down-grading" the telematics so that the cell-phone app has fewer features than when we bought the car, we are still in love with this automobile. It starts silently and drives smoothly like an EV. We have not found its limited 25-mile EV range to be a significant problem because we are in a city and almost all of our round-trips are less than 25 miles and we have a L2 charger in our garage.

We go months in EV only mode but use the ICE for those occasional longer trips. (We have driven the car from Boston to Montreal, Canada which, of course, for most of the trip was like driving a conventional gas-powered Prius.)

We'd consider the new 2023 Prius Prime but we're so happy with our 5-year-old Prime, that we're in no hurry to replace it although the slightly longer EV range is appealing.

 

Also have a 2017 Advanced. The Toyota support people have promised me for over a year that the vehicle locator functionality in the Advanced Apps section of the former Entune App would be restored to the Toyota App, but no sign of it. I've pretty much given up on that. Why would they bother to spend money to make something work on a six-year-old car? "Just buy a new car" would their answer.

 

I hear ya, plus the new prius looks a lot like a dodge dart.

 

In Massachusetts, the voters passed a ballot initiative to make vehicle telematics accessible to 3rd parties ("right to repair"), but the Federal government's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has overridden the state and prevented the law from going into effect.

The NHTSA asserts that opening up vehicle telematics to 3rd parties poses a safety risk because of 3rd parties not being qualified (the NHTSA does not regulate brake repair shops) or that there are no security measures to keep vehicle systems from being "hacked" by evil doers.

It seems that telematic data reported by the vehicle would not be an issue (and could be encrypted) and that modifications or adjustments to the vehicle systems could be limited to hard wire connections in a repair shop and not over the air. But maybe I am missing something here.

If telematics were accessible, there might be some innovative development of 3rd party applications providing the features which Toyota is no longer supporting.