Dealer wants the EVSE - charger

I guess you need the fob but not the charger?

 

The EVSE can be included in the accessories, like floor mats.

Since toyota is telling some customers they won't get a second fob until the fall, maybe you can hold onto the EVSE until your fob is ready.

 

It is not very clear what you are saying here. Looks like you traded in your 2018 Prime and probably left the EVSE plugged in in your garage. The dealer wasn't clever enough at the time to realize that he needed it and he wants to sell your old Prime so now he wants you to give it to him. Since it wasn't included on the sales contract, you feel no obligation to give it to him. I have no problem with that. But mentioning a "fob", I am assuming that you traded for a 2022 Prime that has a shortage of fobs and Toyota has promised to send them later. Of course, the new Prime would come with a new EVSE. Did you also buy an EV SUV that didn't come with and can use the Toyota EVSE? Or do you just feel that it is a good idea to have an extra one on hand, for example when travelling?

 

the fob is worth much more than an evse, don't do it!

 

It is also a Level 1 EVSE, which might not be as handy for a BEV.

 

Interesting on different takes, I would bring the charger back to them right away. Because it’s not like I don’t have it, which would be different. When I sold my 2020 Prime to Carvana, they barely looked at it when they took it. I think the contract doesn’t have to specify components, what comes standard for the car to function as intended should be there. Carvana does ask if two keys present. The car functions as intended with one, so it has to be asked.

 

BINGO.
Not giving them that part is just being.....mmmmm......not nice.
You should give it up.
You might want/need something from them some day.

 

I just bought a pre-owned prime, and the previous owner kept the EVSE. I'm really irritated about that. If they bought a new prime, then they should get an EVSE with their new prime. If they didn't, then what do they need it for? But because the dealer that sold me the prime wasn't experienced in PHEV cars, they didn't even realize that it should have been there. So, I, got messed over.
Because I traded in a PIP, I knew to look for the EVSE on the newer car. Since it wasn't there, I told the dealer that I would hold the EVSE from my PIP. So now 1) the next buyer of my old PIP will be without. 2) I'm using a 10 year old EVSE instead of a 1 year old EVSE. If I keep this car as long as i kept my old one, I don't think an EVSE will hold up for 20 years. I'm going to end up having to buy one sooner or later.

I asked the dealer to try to contact the previous owner and get it if they could. I'm not holding out hope, but it would be nice if it was just overlooked and the previous owner gave it up.

It's only my opinion, but for what it's worth, treat it like a matched set, it belongs with the car.

 

By the way, I checked your location to see if you had mine. LOL

 

Kept my EVSE charger when my first Prime was totaled. Actually took everything that could be removed. Forgot the jack under the rear seat though, dang.

 

Seems to me when you sell a car you should be including all the bits that came with it, ie:

fobs
manuals
jack and tools (if it came with them...)
temp spare (if it came with one...)
charging cable (if applicable)
hatch area cover
floor mats

Maybe that starts to fall apart with the small stuff, say wheel covers gone missing, stuff like that. But you should be upfront about missing stuff, and it should be disclosed in the sales agreement.

 

The EVSE is clearly a vital part of the car and is not an extra cost item. If it came with the car new for free, it should stay with the car next time it's sold or else allow for the missing EVSE in the sale price. I think a new Toyota EVSE still goes for over $900.

 

Fortunately, they’re pretty cheap on eBay, which is where people who keep them, sell them

 

It's actually optional now with Tesla.

 

May I say that dealers never bother to make sure everything is included with a used car, do I want to get down in the gutter with them?

 

Yeah I heard about that. It's slightly like selling a gasser and making the customer pay extra for the ability to open the fuel door. 90% of an EV's advantage is home charging. I guess they want you to buy their Wall Charger, which I hear is very good.

 

They give both as an option on the build site.
I think they might be taking the path like some personal electronics that don't provide a charger or cable, because the person might not need one. So why waste resources. It's possible the buyer isn't a first time EV owner at this point, and already has an EVSE installed. Even if they didn't have a Tesla previously, a J1772 adapter for their current EVSE is much cheaper than the Tesla specific EVSE's.