2023 - Prius or Prime - spare tire?

One bolt can have the tire flat fast. I've been in that scenario, compounded by it being when the snow tires were on, without tpms sensors. Still didn't need air on the road though, because third gens come with a spare.

Got home on the spare, plug repaired indoors (it was below freezing that day), and aired it up with the above floor pump's predecessor, similar pump. It's a bit of a workout, but not that hard. From dead flat took maybe 10 minutes.

 

What's snow? What's freezing? What are snow tires?

Aren't you Canadians supposed to be on my beach this time of the year?!

 

No spare offered on the Prime. Jury is still out on whether it's possible or not to fit a compact spare in the regular spot, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/om-s/OM47E73U/pdf/OM47E73U.pdf

 

Maybe I’m being a stubborn consumer, but sorry: if I’m gonna cut a check for $40k, there’s no way I’m going to be headed to a scrap yard to “fix it”. No spare, no sale. And how Toyota thinks it make sense to strip out the spare on the high end levels, is absurd.

pant pant, wheeze wheeze…

 

“So, you’d skip an otherwise very desirable new Prius over a spare?”

Yes.

 

of course, that's easy to say when you're not in the market for a car

 

There are other cars; some of them come with spares.

 

Someone can go to Longo and look under the trunk cover of those Prius LEs.

 

The story so far in Canada is we won’t be getting the LE, only the two higher levels, and only with AWD.

 

Exactly. When/if things return to‘normal’,
I’ll be taking a hard look at all options.
Prius included

 

Yeah we’re driving maybe 3k kms a year, so mpg cred’s is mostly vanity.

 

Same here, which is why I’ll probably move on to an ev if anything.
Pip is really everything I need, so it would be just for funsies.
I do like the prime heat pump, and I’ve been living with the spare on the deck for ten years.
Every car is a compromise

 

With the hawkish Fed, I don't think things will be back to normal anytime soon. They first ruined things with COVID lockdowns, now ruining them with higher and higher interest rates.

 

My dealer just told me with 100%—even "1,000%"—confidence that none of the Prius trims came with a temporary spare tire, including the LE.

But then, he also insisted that the LE did not come with the parking sensors until I showed him the pictures of the LEs in their parking structure. Therefore, take this information with a grain of salt until you see a picture or video of under the trunk cover.

 

low interest rates mean high demand and lack of supply

 

Demand and supply are separate things. High demand does not result in low supply and vice versa. You need to plot both curves and find the intersection.

The inflation is being driven by lack of supply, not by high demand. The problem is mainly in the food and energy prices, and the demand for them does not change with interest rates, as people still need to buy food, use heat, drive to work, etc. However, high interest rates reduces supply throughout the economy, making inflation worse unless the inflation is driven by high demand, which isn't in the current economic situation. Even if unemployment soared and many people lost their jobs, everyone would still have to eat and use energy to survive.

The current economic situation is best described as stagflation even though the unemployment rate is still very low. Higher interest rates won't solve that problem and will probably make it worse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagflation

 

more people buy cars and other poducts when interest rates are lower

 

But the inflation is not coming from cars and other products. It is coming from food and energy. Cars are still very cheap. Food and energy prices have doubled, and February in particular will be really bad.

 

Inflation is not a factor in car sales. We’ll get back to normal when supply exceeds demand and cars sit on the lot like they did for a hundred years