May live to regret it though jump shipped even before the 2023 Prius hit the dealer lots. Picked up a chevy bolt premier euv yesterday. At times I have a bad habit of 'buying the sale' purchases. In this case, not waiting until the year 2024 to get the federal tax $7,500 off the price directly at the dealer instead will claim it when I do 2023 tax return. Figure I can get $7,500 owed to ira as my SS starts in Feb of this year (taxed at 85%). It won't be my daily driver in that I also have an ICE toyota highlander 2022 hybrid. I do hope to drive the snot out of the bolt. Won't try to sort out which is better, Prius with 2023 refresh is a home run in many ways. Hoping the extra seat height and rear window area is a win for the Bolt. Will still check in on the site as I did love my prior Prius and will be interesting to read owner reviews of the 2023 model.
Congrats! Did your MSRP reflect the most recent price hike announced just a few days ago? I think for EUV it was +$600? GM bumps Chevy Bolt pricing, but the increase is lower than expected I am seriously thinking of buying one too for our second car... But our aim was to try to do without having a second car, at least for a while. Unless I find a preferred trim without markup at a local dealer's lot, I may decide to hold off.
Darn I clicked and deleted my post typed. Well, that was a false alarm. Long story short dealer was going to charge me $5199 over the windows sticker total price and that window sticker price included the destination delivery fee. I simply could not justify giving the dealer that kind of money on a 39K plus car. So I missed out on several rebates that expired yesterday but you just have to draw the line somewhere I feel. Maybe it is a sign to consider a 2023 Toyota Prime in several months. Thinking it takes something like 2hr and 10 minutes on a level 2 charger to recharge the battery good for like 38 miles of ev driving. I did LOVE the ACC in the 2022 Bolt EUV Premier I drove, would not want to buy a bolt without it.
This is a funny phenomenon, but on the Volt forums, they seem to loathe the Prius, for the most part. I've had posts deleted on the Chevy Volt fb page because I stated how much I like my Prius (I am also a Volt owner). But here, people can see past the sillyness and agree that the Bolt is also a reasonable EV..... But you wont ever see me in one Holding out for the '23 Pri. Will sell my '17 Volt at that point, and probably keep my '15 Prius Four. Im loving the buzz over the new design!
I think part of that is that most here that got a Prius did so because it was a Prius, not because it was a Toyota.
I bought a South Korean PHEV and belong to a forum for that vehicle. Many there are previous Prius owners including myself who speak very highly of the Prius. It was the vehicle that for many of us was the gateway to a PHEV. I don't recall a single person on the almost 4 years on the forum who didn't speak highly of their former Prius - the positive experience with the Prius was what motivated most of us to try a PHEV. For those of us who live in the Southeast region of the US, we never had the opportunity to buy a Prius Prime - Toyota Southeast Regional Division refuses to sell Prius Primes to its customers. I do not know if this has changed in the last couple of years or not.
I have a Prius Prime and a Ioniq 5. I bought the Ioniq 5 In March 22 while it was still eligible for the $7500 tax credit. I probably would have bought a Bolt but they were having battery issues at the time and were not eligible for the tax credit. Some days I drive both the Ioniq and the Prime so I have a really good feel for the characteristics of the vehicles. The Prius Prime feels so primitive compared to a BEV.
Theres just so much wrong with the bolt, it is such a missed opportunity. The bolt should have just tried to be an electric Prius and it would be a hit. instead: *it is ugly and tiny, looks like a little clown car or something your kid drives bc he cant get a real car. Even from the perspective of someone used to driving a prius it is ugly *the interior options are terrible; no light interiors unless you get extravagant trims on the EUV, none at all for the basic EV model *outdated charging mechanism means slow charge and means that you will want to replace it once better options are available *chevy reliability If someone would just make a reliable EV that looked decent, was not a weird mini suv but a normal sedan/hatchback, had a light interior option, and is reliable, I would buy it if it costs what a prius does. Instead the only option that comes close is the tesla, and it does not cost what the prius does
The Bolt started out as a Sonic EV to replace the Spark EV for nationwide EV sales. Expected changes to the CAFE rules didn't happen, so the South Korea assembled Spark EV wasn't going to help balance out GM truck sales. They needed something North America assembled. They had maybe a half dozen Sonic EVs made for testing. IIRC, range was around 150 miles. They went with the Trax, the Sonic's crossover sibling, platform because the raised height allowed for more battery under the floor. When the Bolt came out, DC charging on a BEV was still considered an option. The speed of its optional CCS system was what most owners would likely see at the public chargers out at the time. Then second gen could have gotten a faster system, but that actually takes more work than swapping out the AC charger in the car; the battery architecture needs to be redesigned for the higher charge rate. The Ultium suite was still in development without the supplier support in place. Making the gen2 Bolt comparable to BEVs coming out now in charging would mean higher cost. The EV, a 250+ mile BEV, is almost $2000 less than than the new Prius without a plug. Making it Prius sized would also increase the price. For those that want a Prius sized BEV, the Equinox EV will be out as a 2024MY. It is built with the same BEV platform as the Trailblazer EV, and will have the Ultium suite with faster charger. GM is aiming for a price 'around' $30k. After the gen2, the Bolt will likely end. GM could end up still doing a subcompact BEV, but I suspect they will be pressed to meet demand in larger segments. I liked the exterior and interior of my Sonic. It was a more comfortable car to drive than my Prius and Camry.
I test drove a bolt euv today. Good road feel, got up to 60 pretty easily. Decent space in the rows but a tiny trunk, and it was narrow so the middle back seat wasn't the best. For the tax credit, I think it is only eligible for half, bc the $ of the power train made in the US is not not sufficient for the full credit. I could live with the car, I wouldn't use it for road trips or when I was the school car pool guy (I would use my 2016 Prius), but I ended up passing. I'll wait for the new prius, rav4 hybrid or Sportage hybrid. Enjoy the car, it does drive well
Thanks for this post. I called 40+ dealers and finally picked up a bolt EUV last week, I took a train to Charleston, drove 4.5 hours home and paid about 1k in BS (nitrogen, extra floor mats, door edge guards...). I also had to get some options I don't care for (heated seats and steering wheel, leather wrapped steering wheel) but there are just no base models available unless you order and wait 5 months). And compared to Toyota, dealer fees are lower, BS add ons are cheaper and at least it includes one set of floor mats in the base price. I like the car, its barely big enough and drives well, but the purchase was bittersweet. This is the first new car I have bought that isn't a prius. I'm not confident about the longevity of the car, but with the tax credit, I will take the risk. It does much better with the hill in my driveway but still scrapes. I paid 32,600 out the door, so with the tax credit will cost about 25k. I think inpaid 27 for my 2016 Prius, so I'm happy.
I'm also very much in love with the redesigned Prius and would like one. But, wait, how awesome is that Toyota Crown? No, wait, is Toyota bringing back the small pickup truck with the Toyota Stout?? You're killing me, Toyota!!!!!
