Interesting. "GM Hit With $102.6-Million Verdict in Class Action Piston Ring Lawsuit" for faulty piston rings... Wonder if Toyota could be next.. ha GM Hit With $102.6-Million Verdict in Class Action Piston Ring Lawsuit Also interesting take from an attorney... V
agree with the first comment, $2,700. isn't going to cover a new engine. with the gen 3 engine, idk that there is any known solution, other than replacing with a gen 4 engine. but i guess 2700 is better than nothing, which is what toyota customers are getting.
I like that impression "the implied merchantability", around 5:45. Another I've heard is "reasonable expectation". With both expressions, the inference is "you don't expect to be buying a pig in a poke"... Did a double take when I saw this in our Owner's Manual: Toyota should be obligated to show this prominently, in their sales brochures and ads. Replacement of rings/pistons (with 2015 style) is pretty good solution (see attached TSB's), except: 1. It's a little nuts, probably easier/cheaper to put in a new short block. 2. They'll only do this for the first 60K miles or 60 months, also a little nuts: consumption usually start later, around 100~150K, at which point they can tell you to go-pound-sand...
When I originally saw that, I just wondered why every car of every brand I ever owned (up to that point), still had essentially the same claimed potential oil consumption rate. A different car purchased since, has now raised the bar to 1 quart per 1200 miles. But only after the first several thousand miles, once possible consumption has stabilized.
Well, 1000km/liter is better than my parents' '64 Buick that could manage only about 300 mpq when new. Dealer said just drive it faster to break it in, and it will get better. It didn't.
Never anything like that in our (unbroken) string of Hondas. in my experience they would often develop a modest consumption, never more than a quart over oil change interval. Very gradual onset.
maybe i don't keep my cars long enough. but in my youth, i owned a variety of long in the tooth cars that burned little to no oil, except for a mercedes that i had to keep a case of oil in the trunk, and stop every few miles to add a quart
Toyota has fallen a long way in durability. My good old 2001 Avalon that I sold with 317K on the clock didn't use any noticeable oil between changes. The Prius is still basically new to me so how much oil it uses will be interesting to see. I have discovered the timing chain cover is leaking so getting a good measure on how much it's burning will be difficult. Later, Stephen
Toyota offered the solution fairly early with new design pistons and rings, many installed free in the impacted 2010-14 models. It is still a good idea rather than just replacing the symptom, eg the head gasket alone. The low tension piston rings are a problem on a variety of models: 2007-2011 Toyota Camry HV (Hybrid) 2007-09 Toyota Camry 2.4L 2009-11 Toyota Corolla XRS 2009-13 Toyota Matrix 2AZ Engine 2006-08 Toyota RAV4 2007-08 Toyota Solara 2007-09 Scion tC 2008-15 Scion xB 2010-14 Prius 1.8L 2005 Avalon V6 (vvti gear) 2007-10 Sienna (vvti gear)
