Toyota hybrid battery-No longer available-Coud be permanent

Looking at other threads, it looks like the batteries keep coming in and out of "available" status.

G951047031 Hybrid battery no longer available? | Page 2 | PriusChat

 

right. unavailable and discontinued are not the same word

 

I'm pretty sure the Toyota parts site says "no longer available" in those cases, which is a kind of unfortunate choice of words if what they mean is "not available right at the moment".

 

if that's the case, what will they do for 10 year warranty?

 

They'd probably be forced to buy back the vehicles that they can't fix under warranty.

Prematurely ending support life for out-of-warranty product, before other units are out of warranty, may also have legal repercussions.

 

The same modules for Gen 2 and 3 Prii are available in other batteries that are still available, such as Avalon hybrid, Gen 4, Camry hybrid, Sienna hybrid, etc. If the car is under warranty Toyota has the modules for the car and most likely still has enough for warranty work.

It's the people who are out of warranty that may not be able to get a hybrid battery for their Toyota, at least not from Toyota.

 

Automotive manufacturers are required to supplying parts for any production vehicle model for 10 years after model end date....

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Mine will be 10 years old next year.

 

I think this may be a myth; see my previous posting. I’d be glad to be proven wrong, however.

 

I called a local dealer and they had a G951047031 in stock (for $3140), even though parts.toyota.com at the same time shows "This Product Is No Longer Available" for the same part. So I asked the parts guy if it had been discontinued, and he said that as far as he knew there were just supply chain issues. He said that he had put in orders before when these were out of stock, which came up "back ordered", and eventually those orders were filled. He just had no idea if that would happen in a day or 6 months. Sounds a lot like the situation with the catalytic converters a year or so ago.

 

They are not required to provide any parts whatsoever for any amount of time, the only issue is anything covered under a warranty, and even then, there is no rule or law the parts must be available, they could sell a car, provide a warranty, and know full well prior to sale that a part is going to fail, and that part is impossible to procure, ever. In this instance they have to provide as refund on the car, if the part fails in the warranty period and the part is covered under the warranty.

Magnum Moss 1975

If you can prove otherwise, post the federal or state law, I wont hold my breath.

The ONLY exception is emissions equipment under EPA, there is a 2 and 8 year rule for those devices, and only those devices.

 

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When I hit the largest toyota dealers in the usa, pretty clear, these are done and not coming back, not with this part number.

Two years from now, the 2004 officially becomes eligible for antique tags and no more safety inspection, in Virginia

 

if that is the case, it's no big deal. plenty of aftermarket options, once the supply chain is up and running

 

Not so fast. I've been down this road before with a Honda IMA pack. Just because somebody sells an aftermarket option doesn't mean that it is any good. The reliability of Honda's original sticks was mediocre (compared to the Prius prismatic cell batteries), but the replacement Chinese sticks were somehow even worse. Both the New Prius Battery stick NiMH pack and the NexPower lithium iron phosphate pack have only been around for a short time. I hope both products are reliable and last a long time in normal use, but at this point we cannot rule out the possibility that they might only be good for 4 to 5 years.

 

still, for out of warranty cars, there are plenty of options. and don't assume the only longevity testing is actual years in a car. mfg's do plenty of it before mass production.

 

Like play whack-a-mole?
The hope-it-dies-in-11-months-not-13 "referbished" battery?
Trade it for a bicycle?

 

there are at least three aftermarket options with new cells, and some refurbished are legit like a few members here sell.
and grid charge reconditioning is sometimes an option

 

That could be. All I know is I've never had any luck with anything refurbished or aftermarket. Not saying that batteries can't be good, but I've been down that path of taking the OEM part that lasted 20 years, getting a "high quality" brand new aftermarket part, and a week later it doesn't work, send it back, get another one, week later, send it back, breaks in a week, I sends it back, it breaks again... and so on and so forth until I'm too fed up to even try again.

NewPriusBatteries seems good.

Project Lithium has my attention.

I don't know who does the legit refurbished batteries, although one that takes newer wrecked Toyotas and salvages the cells would have my attention too.

But I'm still tempted to just scrap my Prius and keep packing the Avalon with 8 people when I need to go places with 8 people. Of course it does have other problems besides just needing an HV battery, so I really shouldn't complain.

 

The GreenTec refurbished with new cells is a good battery. I’ve had one of their batteries in a Camry for about four years. Good as new. Prices have increased of late, currently $2250. Lower priced options with reused cells, but I wouldn’t recommend those. Nationwide, many installation and service locations.

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All AWDe Prii are still using new NiMh batteries so you can buy a new Gen4 NiMh battery from Toyota for many years and the Gen4 modules will fit into your Gen2 or Gen3 batteries. Just don't ask for a new Toyota Gen2 replacement battery.

JeffD