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Do EVs have a big future?

Discussion in 'EV (Electric Vehicle) Discussion' started by Leadfoot J. McCoalroller, Sep 4, 2022.

  1. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    It's a trick question.

    I'm feeling a certain sense of dread that as mobility electrification progresses and accelerates, consumers will soon be left to choose between a few mostly undifferentiated 5,000+ lb SUVs with $80k+ window stickers.

    Too much weight, too high off the ground, too much truck. Too many batteries. Too much car. Too much money.

    Are we stuck with this? Is there no opportunity to incentivize smaller and lighter cars?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Most of the $80k+ models are luxury brands. I don't see why they should be getting incentives.
     
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    Probably not, since I am currently driving a $35k EV and there are a number that are cheaper.
     
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    is the o/p question referring to 'larger battery/larger tax credit'?
     
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    North Americans are obsessed with large cars, large SUVs and oh yes TRUCKS. Some have two of these monsters in front of their house. They also need fast, sub 10sec 0 to 60 starts and obsessed with range. All this while in reality their daily use of the car is below 10 miles.

    Now, if one could just buy cars to fit their real life stile they would easily find plenty of EVs under $80k. We drive a 2021 Kona Electric and love it. Yes, it could be tight at the rear for some but hey, for two retired people it is perfect. Figure out what you need and and fill that need.
     
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    A more comprehensive up to date list of cars that "may be eligible for a federal income tax credit of up to $7,500."

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml

    Includes my long time car crush the Fisker 2012 Karma Sedan. :X3:
     
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    Sorry, but that is still the recently expired list, not the up-to-date (since August 16) list. Read the new bright red section near the top of the page.

    Drilling down through the links on that EPA page, through the IRS and on to the DOE, yields this newer list of potentially eligible models:

    Alternative Fuels Data Center: Inflation Reduction Act of 2022

    Your desired Fiskar Karma is absent from the new list.
     
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  10. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    Honestly, I'm less concerned with the cost and much more concerned with the size, weight & height.
     
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    :(

    Still might qualify for up to a $4000 revamped used vehicle credit.
     
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    The EVs being bought are around the size of the popular ICE cars being bought. The majority of sales are in the 'compact' SUV segment. They are heavier because batteries. They are still lighter than a full size SUV or pick up. As for the EV pick up, the F150 Lightning is 300 pounds heavier than the fully optioned ICE model.
     
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