Featured Manchin climate bill and EV Tax credit reinstatement

understand the wasteful thing. Even so, there are plenty of folks living in snow climates that benefit (commercially or personally) from 4x4's - whether EV, or plugin hybrids or gassers.
I guess they could all move to dry / sunny climate areas - help polish off the remaining water reserves in AZ, Nevada, So cal etc.

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With one of the Blazer EV trims you can have your choice of FWD, RWD, or AWD.

I agree on AWD not being needed for most getting it. On an EV, the AWD efficiency penalty is small though. Since people are still going to by trucks, and some actually need one, 67 to 70 mpge is better than getting maybe low 20's in mpg from an ICE.

 

Re: Toyota/Panasonic
I should have copied link but I saw yesterday, that Toyota/Panasonic have secured contract to source lithium from the US supplier.

 

It looks like only EVS made in America will qualify. that tosses out quite a few manufacturers. Plus then, with the max EV price cap, even though Tesla's are made in the usa, they too won't qualify

 

I do not understand the new EV rules yet, but maybe the House will modify so its a little early to try to learn it.

 

Yup, this bill is terrible....... in that anything that would've directed affected me has been stripped away. Still, it's better than nothing. I have lots of issues with it but as with a lot of things, without compromises, we get nothing.

Given current EV sales, I don't think there is any need for tax credits or refunds at all, maybe next year. But democrats will lose their thin majority come January so better to make this law before then.

 

How top-selling electric vehicles will be affected by new tax credit

Sounds like FORD GM eventually get what they want which is forcing America consumers to buy US Auto-made EVs. A few tweaks needed to allow Mexico to assemble and push out battery rules to the longer term future.

 

Consumer Reports
Which EVs Will Qualify for the New Electric Vehicle Tax Credit? It’s Complicated.
The Inflation Reduction Act changes which new EVs get a tax break, but it’s clear that used-car buyers will get a benefit

EVs Qualifying for New Electric Tax Credit - Consumer Reports

 

I am not clear on used EV's rules. Maybe I buy @hill's used Pacifica PHEV if I get big discount.

Overall this sounds possibly good for hybrids still making sense, whereas metals requirements are less, so it seems to throw a little bit of slowdown on the idea of rapid mandate of large China-sourced EV Batts in USA.

I was a bit shocked at the Bill language calling out China and Russia as bad guys (paraphrasing). Geez Congress where do you think stuff is made? And do they think we will allow the dirty work here? No we just want the easy part : the clean work, like assembly, we value assembly... but somebody has to agree to do the dirty work. Sort of confusing where this is heading.

 

Time for the US to build domestic battery factories!

 

No electric vehicles on the market today qualify for the new EV tax credit—The Verge

 

That article is really bad, the authors did not do their research. Tesla/panasonic and GM/LG make the bulk of their batteries in the US. The Lexus NX prime is manufactured in Canada and likely could switch easily to US made batteries.

 

According to the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, the auto industry’s main lobbying group, there are currently 72 EV models available for purchase in the United States, including battery, plug-in hybrid, and fuel cell electric vehicles. Of those models, 70 percent are ineligible for the tax credit when the bill passes.

From their own article, 70% are ineligible. But they put out a clickbait article saying "No electric vehicles" qualify. I am glad they hold up the great integrity of the press.