Replace Hybrid Battery Questions

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Mike Carambat, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. ericbecky

    ericbecky Hybrid Battery Hero

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    I'm an installer for Dorman up here in Wisconsin.
    I easily found a shop in your neck of the woods in less than 15 minutes. I'll PM you.
     
  2. Mike Carambat

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    As of 8AM this morning, I'm back up and on the road :) Hometown Hybrids sent out a technician to install their rebuilt battery yesterday, and far as I can tell, everything is working great! I'll keep this thread posted every 3 months or so to let folks know how the battery is doing. Very impressed with the company. Quick, courteous, communicative, upfront and no nonsense. Jessica, it was a pleasure working with you. Thanks for getting me back on the road. :)
     
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    After reading this thread, I went with the grid charger option, and it works! My 2005 Prius threw up the red triangle of death (along with every other light on the panel), and the dealer wanted $3,500 to replace the HV battery. The Hybrid Automotive grid charger cost less than $450 and, with around two hours of trouble-free installation, has fixed the battery and removed all the warning lights. I know it's not a permanent fix, but it gives me time to raise the $1,400 I'll need for a new battery to install.

    Also, I like the rental idea for the charger. I would want to arrange for a deposit to make sure it gets returned, but I'm sure that can be worked out. Message me if you're interested.
     
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  4. Mike Carambat

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    As promised, a 3month status report on the battery.

    Status: 100% still pleased. Fuel economy is steady at around 42mpg average, and no problems!

    Thank you Hometown Hybrids!
     
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    excellent, thanks for the update and shout out to hope this helps!
     
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  6. Mike Carambat

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    Just another 3 month status report... Hometown Hybrid's replacement battery still working great, absolutely no issues, still very pleased! Local driving fuel economy is down over the past few months to about 38mpg, which could be due to the AC running all the time and the insane 100 degree weather.
     
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    thanks mike, how many miles have you put on the new battery?
     
  8. Mike Carambat

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    Not exactly sure, but want to say about 15,000 so far.
     
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    excellent!
     
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    Seems I was right all along - Hate to say I told you so - but I did on page 1 !!! glad to see your happy
     
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    2004 to 2009 are the same battery. I just reconditioned my 2006 with 158,000. I am amazed how easy it was and how good it has worked. Check out Hybrid Automotive LLC, about $500 for the charger/discharger. Why buy a used battery that is going to fail too?
     
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  12. Mike Carambat

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    Over a year now and the replacement refurbished battery still working like a champ!

    Unfortunately can't say the same thing about the rest of the car. This year my AC went out and I have a $1800 repair looming to replace the inside condenser (the hard to reach one of course under the passenger dash) and just today found out my ABS actuator needs to be replaced soon another $2500 - ugh not worth it I'm pushing 190000 miles on this thing. Just Gonna just drive without ABS
     
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    My ABS actuator went out recently. I have a couple of recommendations based on my experience.

    1. In a high-mileage Prius, I'd definitely recommend going used. There are a million options out there on the internet (such as ebay) for ~$250 or so, or a local repair shop can pull one from a junker for around the same cost. The ABS actuators, even the ones with the faulty design, typically last at least 150k (yours lasted 190k). It's very easy to find parts with significantly less than 100k that should go another 100k miles or so. I had my actuator replaced for $900 (this included some other miscellaneous repair items, so the actual ABS replacement was probably in the $700 to $750 range).

    2. Don't drive around without ABS. It's not worth it. If you lock up because some jerkwad cuts you off and slams on his brakes, it's going to be your fault and you're going to be out a lot more than the actuator would have cost you in the first place, especially if you go the route I did. Just find a reputable shop (not dealer), and get the work done with a used part.
     
  14. 3prongpaul

    3prongpaul Hybrid Shop Owner, worked on 100's of Prius's

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    If the AC evaporator under the dash has failed, that's a really big job. The entire dash has to come out to replace the unit (BTW it's not called an "inside condenser") If the shop called it an "inside condenser" take the car somewhere else. Actually take the car to another AC shop for a 2nd opinion regardless. Prius evaporators don't fail very often and it would suck to spend that kind of money on a mis-diagnosed problem. Most Prius AC problems are Compressor or Condenser (in front of the radiator) related. An if they evacuate and recharge the refrigerant they must use ND11 compatible compressor oil from a system not contaminated with "regular car" AC oil. The AC oil regular cars use can damage the electric compressor the Prius uses. I see a lot of bodyshops replacing condensers then simply recharging the AC with their normal equipment only to find within 12 months the compressor fails because they used the wrong kind of oil.

    Used ABS actuators are cheap and plentiful, you just need someone who knows what they are doing to install it since you need to remove the inverter first then use Techstream to properly bleed the brake system once it is replaced. A lot of shops are not comfortable doing that kind of work on a Hybrid. Too bad you didn't live in Colorado!
     
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  15. Mike Carambat

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    1year status report on my replacement refurb battery from Hometown Hybrids, almost to the day :)

    Absolutely no problems! Lasted the entire 1yr warranty period, lets see how much longer she can go :)

    On a side note, getting my ABS actuator replaced this morning by dealer. Putting in a used one as suggested. Called all over town, NO ONE else could do the job other than the dealerships. However they are being very reasonable at just $600 after tax, and were willing to install my used customer supplied part. Lets just hope the part is fully functional as promised from the guy I bought it from. Used part cost about $180 and came out of a 2007 with 67K miles on it. Will let you know how the operation goes this morning :)
     
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  16. ericbecky

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    Thanks for the update!
     
  17. Mike Carambat

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    Just checking in and thought I'd post an update... hybrid battery from Hometown Hybrids is STILL working great! Absolutely no problems! Going on 1year 6 months :)
     
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    • WHY WOULD PRECISION CELL MATCHING BE NEEDED ON BRAND NEW UNUSED FACTORY CELLS ?
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  19. 3prongpaul

    3prongpaul Hybrid Shop Owner, worked on 100's of Prius's

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    If you're going to pay $2,350 you might as well pay $2500-$2600 installed for a genuine Toyota battery. We all know the Toyota battery with Primearth/Panasonic modules made in Japan is likely to last 10-15 years, even though the Toyota warranty is not that great.

    The batteries with "BRAND NEW CELLS" are likely Chinese with questionable longevity. If they were Toyota modules it should say that.

    Talk to any Hybrid specialty shop that installed hundreds of batteries like my shop, they will all tell you new Toyota batteries are the best for longevity and anything refurbished will crap out sooner than you hope. (Independent Hybrid shops charge around $2600 installed for a G2 OEM battery)
     
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    Greentec has been raising prices. Seems now they are really going up. They used to be quite a bit less than OEM with good warranty.
    I’d also go OEM if it’s only a couple to a few hundred dollars more. An OEM battery should last longer and if trouble develops Toyota dealers are easy to find nationwide.