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  1. Hicksite

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    Saw a used Mirai at a Toyota dealer in North Palm Beach Florida yesterday. Not sure how useful it would be around here. Where the heck would one obtain hydrogen to fuel it?
     
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    Whatever happened to Mirai owner who use to post often on here?
     
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    I wonder why the dealer would even accept a big paper weight in trade. :eek:
     
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    iirc - ~1½ decades ago Ford made a handful of shuttle buses for the Orlando area that used hydrogen. A Shell station around that area was used to refuel them. Most likely the buses suffered the same fate as other municipalities that tinkered with this tech - profusely bleeding cash just for the maintenance, much less the higher cost for the fuel & and the maintenance of its compressor.
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    Did a little digging & discovered that the shuttle buses actually used an ICE - & burned the hydrogen rather than use a platinum stack to convert hydrogen to electricity.
    Ford’s Hydrogen Powered E-450 Shuttle Buses Arrive In Orlando | Carscoops

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    Perhaps someone thought they could use the hydrogen station for these shuttle buses for the Murai, and it didn't work out?


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    The old, lower pressure hydrogen standard uses different fill nozzles, if the station is even still in operation.
     
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    could be a collectors item, how much are they asking?
     
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    Austin got the phev hydrogen busses from the doe to test. The hydrogen station was developed by the university of texas with some public but mainly corporate funds.

    DOE and NREL are now working with UT to try to bring the cost of green hydrogen down. Toyota will I think be donating some mirai for the tests. The green hydrogen will be used to provide electricity for the building and super computers in one building. Part of the hydrogen will be from municipal waste, some from wind.

    Not sure why there would be a mirai in florida outside a research project, but maybe it came from one.

    Yamaha is now modifying a Lexus V8 to run hydrogen. I wonder if this is going to be in the next toyota demo.
     
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    Because that would be more efficient than CNG burning inside Piston cylinders? or methanol?
    Must be great to grab free research bucks.
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    Yamaha wants a 'zero' emission bike with an engine. At least for Japan.
    Toyota realizes there needs more hydrogen using vehicles on the road, and fuel cells are too expensive to get there in the short term
    The hurdle is probably NOx emissions.
     
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    hey, wall art is expensive :p
     
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    No mention of hydrogen in the listing, but, hey, no dealer fees.
     
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    Oof looks like the fuel light is on and only has 9 miles on the Distance to Empty meter. I do have to wonder how it ended up there. A dealer wouldn't buy a fuel cell car at auction and ship it to Florida surely? Maybe a California transplant had his car shipped to him after moving and realized when the fuel light came on oh shit time to trade it in?

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    Meh. Easy. We made hydrogen in 9th grade beginner's chemistry class.


    Used car prices are way up recently.
     
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    The trick is in safely compressing it to 10,000 psi.
     
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    We didn't do that. That must have been the advanced class. ;)
     
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    yeah, those used mirai's are flying off the lots
     
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    In the 1960s, I showed my younger brothers how to make hydrogen with lye, water, aluminum foil stick, and a large plastic bottle. We would put a wad of Kleenex to block the mist and put the balloon over the mouth of the bottle. Soon you would have a balloon full of hydrogen suitable for letting lose or shooting with a Roman candle. Great fun until one of my brothers told his friend about it.

    Thinking to make a big balloon, he taped up a plastic laundry bag and put it over the open bottle. When it didn't rise, he decided to test it with a match. He lost his eyebrows, skin on arms, and ears rang for a day.

    Never forget that hydrogen is serious stuff with one of the widest ranges of combustion fuel to air. Given half a chance, it will detonate. For example, mix hydrogen and chlorine gas in the dark, exposed to light, it will immediately combust.

    DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!


    Otherwise, it is a gas.

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    ps. Hydrogen burns with an almost invisible flame. So one NASA technique is to hold a piece of paper on an extended coat hanger and let it catch fire first.
     
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