LRR Tires- No Longer being hyped?

I recently purchased the Michelin Energy Savers...not the All season ones. My ride from the Michelin's over the factory Goodyears is so good now that I am going to purchase my leased 2015 Prius 2. It is so much better. Yeah they are expensive but you get what you pay for. My average MPG went up from 52 to 56 MPG. Some trips I am getting over 80 MPG.

I treated my tires with the 303 protectant and they are showing no wear after 8000 miles. I highly recommend using the 303 protectant on tires and even on leather interiors. Some say don't do it but I always did and got over 180,000 miles on a set of Yokohama Avids on my old Honda CRX HF. I sold the car and the tires still looked almost new. And the great thing about the 303 protectant is that I don't get that thumping noise from tire wear. I've been using it for a long time now and never have had to buy tires to replace worn ones since I started using it. I did replace the factory Goodyears as I hated those tires. They did not give a good ride and were very poor in handling. The Michelin Energy Savers are magnitudes better.

 

Yeah they don't seem to get much attention, you mostly hear about the all-season version. I've thought about them: especially since we have separate snow tires on rims. Interesting.

I would pass on the protectorant though.

 

I had to look up Michelin Energy Savers...not the All season ones. According to Tirerack, it does not come in 195/65R15, yet you are driving leased 2015 Prius 2. Did you buy new oversized wheels for this car? Just curious, for I am starting to think about replacement for OEM Dunlop on my PRIME in next few years.

 

I recently purchased some Michelin Energy Saver A/S for my Prius V to replace the stock Toyos (215/70R17). The overall ride quality and noise levels are much improved, but the mileage has dropped ~10%.

 

Maybe tirerack's only showing what they've got in stock. This is from michelin (albeit Canadian site):





Still, "summer" tires seem to be falling by the wayside. Not many reviews, and I think the first guy actually has the A/S tires.

 

Yap, checked at Truck Tires, Car Tires and more – Michelin Tires
195/65R15 at the Michelin site for $156.99. Wow

 

The protectorant is the natural oils in the rubber, which propagate through use of the tire.

 

Not this:

 

Wait what? 180k?

@Mendel Leisk

You saying no to the 303 on new tires?
I have not used 303 on my tires, but was thinking on a new set that it might be good to.

I have cracking on both my Prius' tires HOWEVER i will have replace due to time, not mileage
My "c' at 47k and starting to look bad on tread edges and a bit on sidewall near rim
My gen3 at 31k and just a bit more than normal looking cracking at tread edge.

It has been a while, but i think i recall watching some YT vids on peeps using the 303
I only use on my trim interior/exterior and it does wonders.

But never did I hear any tires going to 180k

 

A lot of hocus pocus, but 303 does shine for dressing tires. Dressed tires do look good. I spray it when tires come off the car for the tire change but haven't seen much difference in tread life compared to tires without treating. Even if it saves tires for 180K miles, my car would be rusted out before the first tire change. lol

 

@Mendel LeiskYou saying no to the 303 on new tires?

But never did I hear any tires going to 180k[/QUOTE]

If the tires are stored in temperature controlled environment, 303 hits it once a week and driven one mile a year, it should get to 180K with no issues.

180K, they don't disclose how miles driven per year, and they don't even jack the car up and spray the entire road tread surface. Snake oil.

 

He sounds like an advertisement. I just blocked him is all

 

I had one set and they wore far more quickly than I expected. I switched over to the Defenders which cost me a couple mpgs but a whole lot more money over the long term.

 

The cost of tires went up substantially since my 2018 comment you quoted. IIRC, Micheline no longer sells Energy Saver for 195/65R15 size.

BTW, I never purchased any replacement tires for my PPs. I have been just swapping the car before the OEM tires need replacement. And it has been cheaper that way than buying a new set of Michelin tires... That is the crazy part.

 

I always buy Nokian WR tires (now WRg4). They are H-rated, LRR, All Weather (not All Season) tires and perform very well in the winter. They typically last 55-60k miles and have both tread mileage and road hazard warranties.

JeffD

 

I am looking for 4 new tires. How is the road noise on these? Any hit on MPG's? Thanks!

 

I had WRG3 (on a civic hybrid, as a snow tire), found them a little clunky and did impose more rolling resistance. Kind of akin to “hikers”. The 4’s “may” be sim.

 

Thanks for responding!
I posted a new thread today asking about tire options as searching for similiar questions came up with 4-10 year old answers. Do you have advice/opinions/experience you could share?

 

I’ll have a look. Though it’s hard to say; tires can be a gamble. I suspect the manufacturers may even switch formulations, employ different factories and countries of manufacture. Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus are a case in point: there’s a Japanese, Mexican and USA made version. Same name for all, and actually all of them have different specs. And behind the scenes, maybe more diff’s?

 

The WRs ride well with a bit of road noise due to the aggressive tread design, but I found that they do well on MPGs (better than the OE tires that Toyota uses)..

JeffD