Featured Gen 5 Prius now further delayed to the model year 2024

OK, that means 2022 PP will be mostly carryover from 2021 PP. Now, I am more inclined to save on 2021 PP models with a $5500 rebate than wait for the arrival of 2022 PP. Then again, there is the allure of numbers of BEV models, including Toyota's own elusive bZ, being introduced later this year or early next year. Humm, decisions, decisions, decisions.

 

i would expect the next prime to be on lots by late 2023.
will it just be an improvement, or something totally different?
definitely not interested in a coupe of any sort.
i'd rather get the right car than the cheap car. i'll probably wait and hope they get it right

 

...."The Prius is not doing so hot right now. It's down from 236,000 units sold in 2012 to 43,000 for 2020. We believe the right move here is to make the Prius into a class-leading EV to stop losing market share. "

While it's true that cars are about as popular as face masks when compared with CUVs and SUVs, that's a pretty cheap shot.
I'm thinking that the G4's shrinking numbers "might" have been influenced by other stuff in 2020.
I DO agree with the article about one thing though......the G5 ought not to be a wireless car, coup or otherwise.

"Prius" is supposed to mean, essentially 'something prior' or a 'precondition.'
This does not MEAN they HAVE to stay stuck in the past.....

 

I was thrilled to hear the concept vehicle will be sold in the USA.
My hope is it will be made in sufficient numbers to sell nationwide.

Toyota BZ4X concept lands as an electric RAV4-sized package for America - Roadshow

 

Even if sold nationwide, I doubt any NEW BEV will have a huge discount like Prius Prime has now. If the new refundable EV tax credit becomes reality, that will help a lot. But in the end, for me, it all comes down to value. If it isn't affordable to buy, maintain, and operate, then no concept car is suitable for my daily use, that is if I go back to daily commuting again later this year.

 

Sure as heck won't have the range!

 

For my strictly daily use car, the range is the least of concern. As long as it has a total range of 100 miles, I can live with it. Yeah, it would be nice to have 300+ miles EV range, but I don't plan to travel long distances on a BEV at least until they come up with a technology to be able to finish charging the full range again in less than 5 min.

 

They are talking about a "coupe like" design, not an actual coupe. That is not much different than the current gen which tries to be "sporty".

January 2023 could be a late arriving 2023 model or an early 2024. we'll see.

 

Thank you, Toyota. I am very happy there will be a new and improved 5th generation Prius.

I don’t want an all electric car that I have to charge. The Prius charges itself.

And I’m sure after seven years Toyota’s R&D will produce a more efficient Prius. It’s the best of both worlds- high fuel efficiency combined with a rechargeable battery.

I also look forward to an improved and modern interior with great technology. Please make the large screen (such as the current 11.6 inch touchscreen) standard on all versions or at least an option on all models.

Two major areas for improvement are road noise and the propensity for windshield cracks. Please do something on both counts. Perhaps a thicker and stronger windshield will address both issues.

 

and please make it look like a corvette

 

Yeah, currently charging infrastructure is non-existence around here. I doubt it will improve much before the battery technology allows faster charging. Even a Tesla is going to struggle to have enough juice in our neighborhood without a meticulous travel plan to stop at a motel or a hotel with overnight L2 charging.

 

Why The Toyota Corolla Hybrid Is Better Than A Prius | CarBuzz
When looked at in the American or European market, the prius sales are simply going to other hybrids. In japan it still does well, but really does there need to be a corolla hybrid, a Camry hybrid, and a Prius hybrid in a declining hybrid car market. It still sells well in japan, but how long will that continue.

I agree the next gen should not be a bev with no motor, but since over half of prii sold last year were primes, doing a designed to be phev prius for next generation. Sometimes people use the term EV for both bev and phev vehicles, but I prefer the term plug-in for the category. Toyota has even tried calling the mirai an EV to try to get a few sold.

+1

If they decide its a phev, they could go low cost and use the 1.5L 3 cylinder yaris hybrid engine and a 12 kwh lithium iron phosphate battery. The battery would be much less expensive than the current prime's battery pack. Or they could go high performance and use something like the rav4 primes layout or something in between.

 

It’s not a coupe, it has 4 doors


COUPE = 2 Doors PERIOD

Coupe Like = 4 door corvette/ ??? / Profit

 

Cost of that, plus higher tier pricing for the service itself, is what enthusiasts continue to trunk a blind-eye toward. They obsess with a technical trait, blowing off how impractical it is to actually deliver.

 

If the past is predictable, it won’t be seen In SouthEast Region.

 

The G4 shouldn't have been available as a hybrid. It should have been a PHEV from the start. If there is a G5, it should be a PHEV, a REX or an optional BEV. No hybrid Prius anymore.

 

but they sold 40,000 units last year