Yellow paint marks on oil filter cap

@privilege youre opinion is needed here.

 

Any idea what knuckleheads were changing the oil? Spec is 18 ft/lb, for the gen 3 permanent oil filter housing.

 

When I got my 2010 from original owner with 115K miles, tried to remove filter with car on ramps with breaker bar and proper tool, it would not budge. Felt like I was lifting car in the air! Had car at Toyota dealer for a couple recall items and as a favor they loosened filter cap and retorqued to 18 ft-lbs. Had to replace filter cap due to some broken/chipped fins, but eventually did the spin on filter conversion. Original owner had been to Jiffy Lube every 4-5K miles for oil changes, I blame their chimpanzees for using air gun on the filter!

 

Yeah I did the same; tired of dealing with the finicky permanent housing filter; had the o-ring (apparently) jump the groove one time, that was enough.

 

don't know if you're joking or serious !

apparently every knucklehead that works as an oil tech loves to put fifteen thousand uggaduggas on fasteners, no matter how plain it is to see that they don't need it or want it.

personally I would go to Toyota and buy a new filter cap, filter, and break the old one off with a cheater pole or chisel. I bet the last person that did the oil change put the o ring on dry and used an impact on it, because YouTube_said_so.

 

serious. Using the same filter again, ouch is what you said.

 

In the illustration, the left side shows the proper installation location of the o-ring. You’ll notice that the o-ring does not compress from the torque of the cap. It simply seals against the side of the smooth aluminum face inside the housing. I believe all the problems stems from the plastic cap flange seating against the aluminum housing. That is a huge amount of surface area where the actual torque is applied. I have found that a liberal application of moly lube on that surface can minimize the struggle of removing that plastic cap.

 

never knew that trick. Applying moly lube onto the surface end of the filter right before unwrenching the cap.

 

that’s no way to save the earth and landfill.

 

if you can’t take off the filter, it forces you to go back to them. Returning customers is what they get, very clever business.

 

Who has a link to the filter conversion?

 

I don’t think it’s intentional. Even at the spec. of 18ft/lb that thing is a major hassle to loosen. It’s more of an over engineered design flaw.

 

I’ve done all the changes on our 2010 (over 20 now), always torqued to spec, never any problem with subsequent removal.


Permanent housing style: 18 ft/lb
Spin-on style: 13 ft/lb
Gangnam style: ah woops

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I've learned to just barely snug the cap. Once it makes contact, a final tiny tug and I'm good. It tightens up with use and still needs lots of pressure to remove later.