ISO: newpriusbatteries Installation Procedure

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by George W, Jan 30, 2021.

  1. ozmatt

    ozmatt Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2015
    604
    252
    0
    Location:
    australia
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    One
    Genuinely sorry your car is giving you heartache, not fun having this stuff on your mind

    Completely understand why you didn't want to buy another rebuilt pack after all that, it comes down to who does the rebuild and what their standards are like, the pack i built for my daughters car in April 2017 is still in the car today and now has about 100,000km on it, some people actually try to do a decent job of things others are just out to take your money and promise you the world!

    I actually believe the data you are getting from the dr.prius app is true enough, I know others have said things like "data from the app is not that great" that just sounds like a cop out to me and i think most people that know, would know!.. the app is reasonably reliable for testing voltage blocks under load and reporting internal resistance, granted it has some bugs but the voltage and ir readings are pretty on point really, the data being reported only comes from the car there is no magic

    All BS aside, I think the reason why you are getting low #12 via the app is because you indeed have deteriorated capacity on #12 more than likely from a weak cell/module, when looking at things via the app the pack is under load which is what you want, by the time you pull the pack out and bench test it unloaded a few hours or even days later the modules have enough time for surface voltages to even out but unfortunately having "even" surface voltages unloaded does not necessarily mean they all have even capacity, i hope that makes sense..

    Good luck with it (y)
     
    #21 ozmatt, Feb 5, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2021
  2. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2010
    6,035
    3,855
    0
    Location:
    Rocky Mountains
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Think back to where the safety disconnect is physically attached... Now think to what is being measured... The app doesn't compensate for the safety disconnect switch... Want to try wild guessing again? See why a readout on an app with no compensation produces data that isn't that great?

    You are entitled to opinions, but not facts.
     
  3. edthefox5

    edthefox5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2007
    10,096
    4,821
    0
    Location:
    Clearwater, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I have looked at my new NPB BATTERY with both Dr Prius and Techstream and both show the metrics of a brand new battery. Super strong.
    Somethings not right in Denmark with yours.

    loose bolts
    Corroded disconnect harness
    Corroded sensors
    Corroded ecu harness I assume you took the cover off the ecu and removed the ecu Circuit board and looked for corrosion closely on the board.

    it should come out for autopsy you may have a bad module but I doubt it.
    Find out now.

    to all prospective new Prius battery buyers check the voltage across all new battery’s before installing them they should be close. I did they all looked identical.

    also after building it before you install it in the car install it’s safety switch and measure the total pack B+ Across the battery side relay. Mine was 220 volts.

    then don’t forget to remove the safety switch before installing it.

    And always After putting it in the car Even if your 100% positive the safety switch is out still measure it again at the relay before installing car side connections when installing it.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  4. ozmatt

    ozmatt Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2015
    604
    252
    0
    Location:
    australia
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    One
    lol another cop out answer! i feel sorry for this guy, im going to leave it at that.
     
    #24 ozmatt, Feb 5, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2021
  5. George W

    George W Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2018
    911
    513
    1
    Location:
    San Antonio
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    My inspection was limited to the harness connections at both ends. This is why I wanted to refer to the manual, to make sure I was looking at the proper wiring. I didn't pull any ecu's or look at those connections because I'm not familiar with those sub-assemblies
     
  6. SFO

    SFO Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    5,302
    4,243
    0
    Location:
    Northern California
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    A couple of images that show some of what is possible, if visible on the outside you may want to look inside the HV battery ECU.

    [​IMG]
     
    George W and edthefox5 like this.
  7. edthefox5

    edthefox5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2007
    10,096
    4,821
    0
    Location:
    Clearwater, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Everyone in that battery should check out the ecu. Here's some photos of mine when I installed my NPB months ago. I was shocked to see how clean the board & connectors were. Its a garaged car so I guess that helps somewhat.
    But in addition to the outside connector sockets look closely around these pins these rot too.
     

    Attached Files:

    George W and SFO like this.