Featured Prius to be discontinued in Germany......

new battery? maybe someday

no prius in germany? whatever

no announcements of bev models on the horizon? honesty

 

Ouch .... with many countries backing off on smaller cars for the past two years, I guess this was inevitable. EV's and bigger car production grows, & small hybrid car production shrinks. I read that GigaBerlin construction is underway. You don't build a factory that can produce millions of cells for nothing. Maybe that's a good thing? idk.
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Prius (liftback model) wasn't big in Germany anyway. When I was there 5 years ago, the other Toyota hybrids were much more popular. So, it's not a big deal seeing it discountinued there.

As for Prius in our market, that pretty much is inevitable, but for any entirely different reason. Carrying a non-plug model into the next generation doesn't make sense. Something in PHEV form will become a standard offering. Who knows what naming of the new BEV models will be anyway. There's the Corolla Crossover making its way into markets not too. So, change in coming.

 

And they get a choice of the Corolla hybrid in sedan, hatchback, and wagon. Plus there is the Yaris hybrid as well. Sales of the Prius started dropping during the third gen because of them. Now they also have the Camry, C-HR, and Rav4 to pick.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if PRIUS is dropped here. I just did a check of last 4 months last financial year"
March 14
April 4
May 3
June 9.

Toyota breakdown for May - they sold 4 times the number of SUPRAs!! which are 2½-3 times dearer.

 

When you can get the HSD powertrain in your choice of shapes and sizes, the old "one size fits all" model loses appeal fast.

 

How are they selling Vs ?

I thought Toyota didn’t care about used car sales?

but the Prius shape provides the most utility Of any other shape similar to a minivan .

Sadly people don’t care if they can actually use their cars For something useful

 

Yep .... more range please ..... & throw in some faster charging while you're at it.

except a plugin minivan (33 EV mile range) can almost stow a Prius C in back, but not the other way around.

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I'm not out to dispute the utility of the liftback design.

I'm just recognizing Toyota's effort to validate hybrid power as a mainstream automotive technology. It may have taken 20+ years to break out of the niche, but they've finally got themselves positioned to pull it off- hopefully to everyone's benefit.

 

It was only cancelled in the US. It was still available in Canada after its last year here.

But the Corolla hatchback and wagon hybrids provide that without an import tax tacked on.

 

to me, the prius is still the best form factor of all of toyota's hybrids, but that's only one sale.

and yes, everything needs a plug

 

Most people don't know it, but Toyota is not standing by idle when it comes to the fierce electric car competition in China... Because the newest cities being designed and built in China are severely restricting ICE vehicles, Toyota didn't have any other option than to build and sell a low price electric car. You can see it in this video:

 

The Prius could be axed in more countries in Europe.
A lot of tax incentives have been removed so there isn't a financial gain in getting a Prius.
The Corolla Wagon is quite popular here now since it is more practical than the Prius and it doesn't look as weird as the Prius.

Toyota does need to step up their hybrid game in terms of driving dynamics. They tried to market it as an alternative to small diesel vehicles but even the 2.0 Hybrid seriously lacks in torque compared to the current 1.5 and 1.6L diesel and gas engines. To compete you need about 170 to 180 lb.ft of torque. Most gas engines in the 1.6L range have that torque and similar sized diesel engines have more than 200 lb.ft of torque. You seriously miss the torque when accelerating between 50 and 80 mph.

 

I'm gonna be that guy and ask if every model needs to compete in the horsepower war? I'm really okay with letting "sports cars" be a little special in this regard while pocketing the savings on all the others.

Nothing wrong with ~110 lb-ft per liter as long as you're also able to cough up a 900cc mill for the masses.

 

So how many do I get if I trade-in my Model 3?

Bob Wilson

 

that miserable excuse of a car - the "CODA" .... & it's lightning quick failure didn't teach the chinese manufacturers a thing - did it. Everything that the Coda was ... this little steaming pile is even less.
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I'm not offering anything at all in defense of this particular car, but after much deliberation I'm ready to say that if an automaker can't get a high volume 4-door on the market for south of $22k then they officially aren't even trying to be a serious automaker.