SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

my near 97yr'old dad has survived multiple bouts of flu / pneumonia over the past decade. Plus surviving two types of cancer 5 + years, this latest one he has will be strike three and he's on hospice. Breathing getting bad... so how does that 20% - 30% respiratory loss differ from regular flu / pneumonia. That data might give perspective, rather than just the raw fun fact.
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It is believed lung capacity returns to near prior infection levels after recovery from most bacterial and viral pneumonias. However pneumonias can sometimes further worsen into ARDS which often leads to some degree of permanent lung scarring. This has been more common with COVID-19 among hospitalized patients than most respiratory illnesses.

 

This video will help you understand what is going on:

Bob Wilson

 

ny times?

 

The price was right.

Bob Wilson

 

Source: Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)

Data as of 04/09/2020

Week ending date in which the death occurred All COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 All Pneumonia Deaths3 (J12.0–J18.9) Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-193 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)

	Deaths occurred	COVID-19	All Causes	Expected	Pneumonia Deaths	Pneumonia and COVID-19
1	02/01/20	0	56381	95	3617	0
2	02/08/20	0	56713	95	3599	0
3	02/15/20	0	55237	94	3577	0
4	02/22/20	0	54810	94	3418	0
5	02/29/20	5	54401	111	3453	3
6	03/07/20	18	53626	93	3538	11
7	03/14/20	45	50942	89	3450	22
8	03/21/20	415	48612	85	3706	192
9	03/28/20	1764	44532	80	4146	809
10	04/04/20	1818	26190	47	2726	842
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12	Total Deaths	4065	501444	88	35230	1879

 

Notice that asterisk:

" *Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction, age, and cause of death."

I.e. those death counts are not complete, it will take many weeks for all the reports to arrive and be included. And for the most recent report week, only about 47% of the expected deaths are logged so far.

For that end date of 4/4/2020, Worldometer is showing 8457 C-19 deaths. Today, 16691.

 

I sure hope tissue samples are retained or at least a chest X-ray to confirm coronavirus diagnosis. One irony are lay reports that more severe cases may be an overactive, immune response. I look forward to pathology studies that may give insights such as:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0308-3

Published: 09 April 2020
COVID-19: immunopathology and its implications for therapy

Xuetao Cao
Nature Reviews Immunology (2020)Cite this article

Severe coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is characterized by pneumonia, lymphopenia, exhausted lymphocytes and a cytokine storm. Significant antibody production is observed; however, whether this is protective or pathogenic remains to be determined. Defining the immunopathological changes in patients with COVID-19 provides potential targets for drug discovery and is important for clinical management.
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Bob Wilson

 

isn't that what the malaria drug is for?

 

It is for separating fools from their money and then bury the failures.

Bob Wilson

 

Even if they have saved some sample, I somewhat doubt that the codes used on death certificate data will be changed retroactively.

 

Some defiant U.S. churches plan Easter services, ignoring public health guidelines - Reuters

I wonder how this will go.

 

Like a big steak on Good Friday.

 

Some should come to Jesus.

Bob Wilson

 

i'm not sure this is correct. a number of doctors say that it has been efective when used properly in some cases.
these are front line md's, not internet quacks.

 

No, those drugs do show some anti-viral effect outside the body.
We do have treatments for when the immune system overreacts though. Which may have been the case for why the Spanish flu killed so many young people.

 

yes, i may have the wrong drug. google searches show some immune system correlation in studies, but i'm not smart enough to understand what they are saying.

still, there is a lot of positive medical information regarding the malaria drug and covid, politics aside.

 

Happy Good Friday to you all. Still praying the world will be rid of this pestilence on Sunday. Hope there is enough of you doing the same! In Jesus' name.

 

It is on phase 2 clinical trial right now. Just like many other drugs on clinical trials, it's effectiveness, at this time, is largely unproven.
NIH clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine, a potential therapy for COVID-19, begins | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

 

Still, difficult to completely 'politics aside' it, when among the 'positive medical information' is a study being spun so that the patients who dropped out, moved to ICU, or died weren't counted in the result, then saying the drug was effective in 100% of the rest.

Stuff like that is pathognomonic of motives other than medical.