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EV Range worse in 2020 model?

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by followingalex, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. followingalex

    followingalex Junior Member

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    I'm driving a 2017 and getting around 28 EV miles.. maybe 26 on a bad day..
    but I noticed that on the Toyota site the official EV miles on the 2020 are 25 ...
    is it a slightly smaller battery or just some sort of adjustment/correction to the estimated miles in some way?

    Anyone have a point of reference from driving a 2020 and a previous model?
     
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    I thought the official EV range has always been 25 miles for this generation. It’s not uncommon to be able to get more though.
     
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    That is the Toyota estimate. Almost all Prime drivers exceed that in the summer and struggle to reach that in the winter (depends on where they live, obviously).

    There were no changes to the battery or drive train on the Prime from 2017 to 2020, and the estimated EV range is 25 for all Prime model years.
     
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    good to know ..
    so i'm going to guess from reading up on this forum..
    there are a lot of people speculating 2021 will be a redesign with +battery and longer range..
     
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    Time will tell. Each generation has improvements.
     
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    Don't forget the shorter charging time and higher power density / cell when praying to the electric car gods.

    Do we also want puncture proof / solid tires with more traction, less rolling resistance and a more comfortable ride and maybe one day add a few turbines to generate electric from waste air turbulence.
    I think most of that was already mentioned in the what do you want in the new Prius Prime thread back in 2016
     
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    Range comes with time and is a function of how you use your right foot (also terrain). Hills will sap range away as will hard acceleration, high speed driving, and if you brake hard, you'll recover less so that saps range away, too.

    You'll get the highest range on flat land with no climate control, slow acceleration, slow braking, and driving <55.

    In real life, I find it practical to accelerate as to not frustrate those behind you, and go with the flow on the highway in the two right most lanes.

    I was getting about 37mi per charge, but ive installed openpilot (Advanced cruise control/ lane keeping) and get ~32mi per charge. That's mostly because I'm using the radar cruise control which can't compete with a human in traffic. I'm much better at looking 5-6 cars ahead and basing my speed on thr average lane speed rather than blindly following the car directly in front of me like cruise does.
     
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    2021? probably the same old prime. they just updated the 2020. i wouldn't hold my breath for more range, even in the next generation. where are they gonna put more battery, on the roof?:cool:
     
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    50 to 60kms depending on terrain
    temps still in the 70's
     
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    Yeah, EPA estimate has always been 25 EV miles on all PRIMEs, no changes. In the real world, you can get much longer during good weather. Last few weeks, I have been routinely getting over 40 miles of actual EV range, with GOM showing right around 40 miles.
     
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