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Installed BOSCH Prius 12v Battery-Great Quality

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by ski.dive, Jul 30, 2019.

  1. ski.dive

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    Bosch Premium Performance Battery Group Size 51
    Part # 51-440BAGM
    PERFECT PRIUS FIT

     

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    Yes, has the tiny Japanese terminals=Perfect fit!!!
     
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    congrats! where did you get it and what did it cost?
     
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    Got it at PEPBOYS- They had a 25% discount=$164 out the door.
     
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    well done!(y)
     
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    I installed this battery this week. 4yr replacement warranty for $155.01 out the door (no core charge.)

    Optima battery with three year replacement would have been $240. It was only $160 the last two times I bought it. First lasted six years. Second lasted three years. The internet says that Optima battery quality has declined. 50% higher price with half the performance period.

    Toyota dealer battery would have been around $240 as well with an eight-year pro-rated warranty. The internet says that they fail in three or four years and that little of the warranty value applied to another $240 battery purchase.

    With this Bosch battery I'm guaranteed to get four years for $155.
     
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    can't argue with that (y) where did you buy it?
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    All this praise seems a bit premature. My OEM Toyota lasted six years. The replacement Toyota OEM is at five years and probably has at least another couple of years.. I can get another one for $190 right now from the dealer.

    The batteries have a solid warranty, they fit.

    But most importantly, I really do not care what others put in. I am good with aftermarket for most parts, but for the 12v the OEM makes most sense.
    kris
     
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    Pep Boys is having a sale on them right now. In-store pickup only, so I hope there's one near you. It says "size 51" so I expected it to have the normal battery terminals. The pictures have the normal battery terminals. It is really the S46B24R with the skinny terminals.
     
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    I believe the aftermarket makes more sense. Interstate manufactures Toyota batteries and their warranty isn't that impressive when pro-rated past the 1.5-2yr replacement period. Everybody is buying batteries from the same short list of manufacturers. Yuasa, Penn, Exide, Johnson, Interstate, etc. There isn't much concern about them fitting because they're standardized - you either get a group 51 with SAE terminals or a S46B24R with the JIS terminals.

    Toyota markup doesn't provide a better battery, fit, warranty, or peace of mind.
    Shop Genuine OEM Car Batteries for Your Toyota
    shows an expected life span of 2-6 years and their free-replacement period stops at two years. Batteries Plus provides installation and warranty support on par with a Toyota dealer and they're likely more convenient.

    With a $205 Toyota battery there is a two-year window to lose >$100 and a one-year window to save $15.
    A $150 Bosch with 4yr free-replacement warranty is obviously better until the warranty expires. Toyota pays only 50-60% in years 3 and 4.
    A year 5 failure is a $150 Bosch replacement or a 35% discount on a $205 Toyota replacement ($135.) Year 5 is $164.


    Toyota battery longevity issues and poor warranty payout reported in another thread here.

    I couldn't find a $190 Toyota battery. I'm finding conflicting information about TrueStart vs. True-2.

    My dealer pricing was $240 for part 2880021171
    5-year pro-rated warranty with 18-month replacement on a "True-2" battery. I clicked through to a local dealer and it was still $240. I found a non-local dealer at $205.

    https://www.toyota.com/toyota-owners-theme/pdf/03_Batteries2015_final%5B1%5D.pdf
    This shows a "TrueStart" battery for the Prius "325-21171-00544" which doesn't get any google hits. No google hits for "truestart prius"

    I assume that the TrueStart with the superior warranty and features will cost more than the True-2.
     
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    How many distinct battery producers are there?
    Johnson Controls is the largest I think with brands like Bosch, Varta, Optima and others.
    Interstate is another large one.
     
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    Except that Toyota doesn't actually make batteries....they may or may not supply the labels that get stuck on them to the manufacturer(s).
     
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    correct. toyota doesn't make a lot of the parts that go into their cars
     
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    True, but Yuasa does, and their batteries are what Toy supplies and they are awesome. Never seen any other than Yuasa come from the dealer -- at least on the West Coast.

    To get a discount price, you have to sweet talk the counterperson.. :whistle:

    My husband can also haggle down the price at the Toyota counter, but I suspect it is more that they get tired of him and just want him to leave.:D

    Parts counter prices, whether it is NAPA or Toyota, or Bart and Homer's Auto Parts, are never set in stone.
    kris
     
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