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2005 Prius Torque Pro hv fan spd at 0

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by AngelK, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. AngelK

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    Screenshot attached of what Torque pro shows. I haven't purchased this car yet but I am seriously considering it. It is an 05 with 65k miles 1 owner, price would be 6k. I'm completely new to Prius and checking out the battery. Got a bluetooth OBDII reader on amazon and the screenshot I attached is what it shows. Is it normal for the HV fan Spd to be at 0? It never moves even after I drove it around the block.

    The HV Battery Temps were right around 80f. It's a relatively cold day in Los Angeles, no sun.

    Also after doing a hard stop during the test drive, while I was at a stop light I noticed a popping or some kind of noise from the front of the car. It was intermittent and pretty random, sounded like some type of pump maybe, but it wasn't happening until I had done a hard stop.

    Thank you for your time reading, would appreciate any help and insight.
     

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    Sounds like the kind of car us Gen2 nerds would consider as a dream come true... Because you're already connecting your phone to the car's OBD2 and running apps and are curious about all the data you're the right person to own it.

    But it is an older car so keeping it on the road has alot to do with what you can afford. So if you see yourself working on most of the maintenance issues yourself to prevent scandalous rates from a mechanic and have a one or two thousand set aside in the bank to make quick work of any repairs that's a perfect scenario for a long enjoyable life with this car and you might not have to even spend much at all on maintenance for a long time...

    But if you're gonna spend $6k and that's all you got to put into it for a while and you don't work on cars, nor have friends you trust who will work on your cars it might get stupid expensive compared to what you paid. So let us know more details in that regard so we can be of greater assistance.
     
  3. AngelK

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    I will have 1-3k to put into it in the coming times, plan on financing most of it and even getting a powertrain warranty. I do financing at a used car dealership, so I'm getting the car at cost, and the warranty at cost, and best possible financing. Will be moving to Tennessee with it though, and have 0 contacts there. Any maintenance or repair work will most likely be done by me learning it on youtube, or if its too complicated finding a mechanic I can trust. Having the warranty should help as well, it's from a good company.

    I do plan on taking the car to a mechanic before finalizing the purchase and having it thoroughly inspected.
     
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    If it had a factory new Toyota battery and updated Brake actuator assembly it might be a fair price. If it doesn’t walk away.
     
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    Really? I know for a fact it's below market price, it's a California car, 1 owner, and consistent dealership servicing (new spark plugs, front brakes, tires, new water pump at 59k miles)
     
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    welcome!
    what is market price? my 2012 with 65k is only worth 9k private sale

    a 2005 with only 65k is likely to have battery failure soon. figure at least $1,600. for a new battery if you install, or more for labor, unless you want to play whack a mole with cell replacement and balancing.
     
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    Your money would have been better spent on Techstream vs the toy bluetooth OBD2 readers. The toys can NOT read all Toyota/Lexus codes, and can NOT do any maintenance esp w/ the Prius. Techstream is the OFFICIAL software written for Toyota/Lexus to perform diagnostic and maintenance. Now you know.

    The car is programmed to take care of itself. If there is a problem w/ the battery fan, a code of some sort will show.

    Consider updating your location, unless you are taking the vehicle back w/ you.

    1) Market price is dictated by the market. KBB could say "fair" value is $10k. But if NO ONE is willing to buy it for $10k, seller has to lower price or take it off the market.
    2) Dealership service = owner has money to burn and/or likes the "complimentary" car was that comes w/ maintenance.
    3) Spark plugs, front brakes, tires, water pump, ... = maintenance. Any vehicle kept long enough would also require those same items.

    I would rather buy Bisco's 2012 w/ 65K miles for $9k, than a 2005 w/ 65k miles for $6k. Gen3's look nicer IMO, more power, better MPG, and have more creature comforts.
     
  8. AngelK

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    If Bisco is selling his 2012 with 65k miles for 9k, I'll be happy to buy it and make 2k here in California. It's my job to retail and finance cars, at least until I relocate to Clarksville TN as my location shows. Either way I was more intending to ask about the voltages and if they're too low, because I've seen videos with them sitting at around 17.4.

    If you'll take some advice, use cargurus to price cars. KBB is usually too far in either direction. (source: I've sold about 1100 in the last 2 years). The kbb and cargurus market value doesn't mean the car sells at that price, but it's close enough in most cases, within $500-1200.

    edit: Thanks for the advice on the techstream, the obd I got was like $20 so no biggie, I'll be getting a techstream if I do end up getting a prius.
     

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    17V DC range might be b/c the car is READY and actually being recharged (by an idling engine or regenerative motion). Looking at your pic in post #1, it appears the car is Ig-ON.

    Never heard of Cargurus until now. Will reference them in addition to KBB, should I need to buy or sell in the future.

    I would say you should still get it b/c you are in the buying/selling of cars, and probably have friends/family who drive a Toyota/Lexus. Techstream is invaluable! Consider it like a quality set of jumper cable. Rarely used, but glad you have it when you need it!

    Get mini VCI w/ Techstream from Amazon ($18+). Doesn't matter who you buy from, as the cables likely come from the same one or two suppliers from panda land. May have to return/buy a few, as some cables have problems. Installation easiest on a Windows 32bit OS (XP, Vista, 7). Ask friends/family if they know someone in IT, as this person will likely have obsolete laptops laying around, and might be able to donate for free. B/C the software is hacked, recommended to install on a spare laptop; do not use this laptop for sensitive information (log in & passwords: email, bill payments, etc). This laptop is now your Toyota/Lexus diagnostic laptop. Mac install possible, you just need to search online.

    Should you stop driving a Toyota/Lexus, you can easily sell your Techstream laptop set-up here. Private Sales | PriusChat

    "But I don't DIY." Getting the codes read at a Toyota dealership will set you back $100+. The cost of the hacked Techstream from Amazon will pay for itself.

    Remember:
    Techstream is the OFFICIAL diagnostic and maintenance software made for Toyota/Lexus, and used at Toyota/Lexus dealerships. Bluetooth OBD2 readers and all the various apps for smartphones/tablets are convenient (small and portable) but junk: LIMITED code reading ability (can't read ALL codes) and can NOT do any maintenance, esp on the Prius (bleed brakes, engine compression check, activate CHRS pump, etc).
     
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    Being in the business I'm sure you know that warranty stuff almost never pays off for the owner, but for the warranter. Maybe if you get it at cost? But I doubt it. Too many ways for warranter to back out on repair costs and always costs more than it pays out.

    As long as you're willing to do repair research on here and youtube and not get overcharged by mechanics who are going broke because nobody brings their business back to them after they get an outrageous bill you should be ok.

    Most of all, there's a lot of mechanics that don't have a clue about Prius and its history... Such as saying you have to replace a steering rack when a Toyota recall found a way to fix that problem by adding a single bolt to the steering column. Also because the cars uses the electric motor to generate electricity while braking, sometimes the front brake rotors will get a bit rusty looking and a dumb mechanic will use that as an excuse to replace rotors and pads long before that work is even needed. I have original brake pads on my '07 w/244K (mostly freeway) miles and they still got a ways to go.

    There's lots of other red flag oriented claims mechanics will make if they don't work on Prius often, so make sure to check with everyone on here before authorizing the work.
     
  11. AngelK

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    Thank you very much for the advice, glad I came here. Looks like I will be purchasing the prius unless anything changes or I find anything out about the car, so will definitely be consulting this forum before doing anything.
     
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    That's a fair point. The company is Gold Standard Automotive Network, and they're very high rated. Always pay out for my customers. They also pay for maintenance, which certainly pays back into your pocket. But now that I'm thinking about it, the cost of it is around $1200, I might as well keep that and spend it on repairs if the car has an actual breakdown or needs a new hybrid battery due to age.