1000 Miles in a Tesla Model 3 in 1 day: NJ to FL

In this case, it's equally true that "in power there is knowledge"

 

And some say that a Tesla model 3 is cheaper to own than a polluting Camry.
This math shows Tesla’s Model 3 is cheaper to own than Toyota’s Camry - MarketWatch

 

Irrelevant because they didn't take the Hybrid Camry and Model 3 is too young to make assumptions on car depreciation.

Still $0.5 per mile is really really high, but then again for only 3 year ownership normal. My 8 year ownership of Prius is at $0.34 per mile and that is at European $5.5 per gallon fuel price.

 

The author included a link to his spread sheets, so you can compare the hybrid to the Model 3.

 

Hybrid cars are selling worse than their ICE siblings. Fewer people want a hybrid now since BEVs are a viable alternative. It does not look good for resale value of hybrids in the future. In contrast, the model 3 gets better with age because of Over The Air updates. My car is even better now than when I purchased it 4 months ago.

BTW, I ate at the Drina Daisy Cafe in Astoria, Oregon a couple of days ago. It is owned by a lady from Bosnia. Excellent Burek and Sarma and Slivovika.

 

Yes, but don't overstate this. The car is still depreciating.

Mike

 

Yes, my point was the model 3 is depreciating at a slower rate (percentage-wise) than a Camry or Prius

 

But if the car cost more in the beginning, even if the percentage rate is less, the amount can be more.

Though I am constantly amazed with the availability of M3s now from the showroom, how close to list used one at selling for (at least asking). Folks have taken the tax break and flipping I guess.

 

I find it funny how Prius people are debating the viability of bev and the model 3. I remember when Prius were just coming in 2000s and people were pooping (shi*ing) on it. Battery was gonna cost 10k , interior was like Tupperware (I was one of those people HATED prius). Never would have bought one. Your paying interior quality equivalent to a 11k car but paying 3-4x as much as an 11k car. Drives like a rolling fridge (it still drives like a fridge by the way).

But the Prius really made me appreciate it. I love my Prius. And it made me give up my love of high powered cars, six speed manual turbo cars with loud exhaust and embracing electric cars where the focus is not loudness and speed, but efficiency.

 

That is really strange, because to me a Hybrid is not just a slow gas saving car, to me it drives way better than any other conventional AT. I think Toyota blew it in the past with all this green publicity and bad press about how slow Prius is. But with the latest hybrids (Camry, RAV4, Lexus UX) they shifted this a little, I hear reviews of RAV4 and UX that Hybrid version is actually a better car not even considering gas mileage. They are definitely getting more mainstream in Europe and sales of Toyota hybrids are increasing at ~15% rate, with the new Corolla and RAV4 I expect even greater increase this year.

 

hycam is much better than the gasser, but there is still a significant price penalty, which keeps sales low.

 

Europe has highe fuel prices, and some public backlash against going on; different market forces than in the US.

 

Reminds me of the stories in the 1970's about the 50mpg carburetor that the conspiracy theorists said Big Auto/Big Oil/Big fill-in-the-blank owned the rights to but wouldn't release.

 

More likely the magic carb, or whatever inspired the legend, was a smog machine that couldn't pass the primitive emission standards of the day

 

I'm not quite sure what the single asterisk stands for
A double asterisk, on the other hand, I can understand

It's OK to love both Prius and Tesla, by the way - it's like loving one's older and younger children... and Hybrid/Plug-in and BEV fans do sometimes sound like squabbling siblings