400 miles of charge per hour is fabulous! it is too bad he didn't do a little chart at the end, showing trip time/miles, stops, etc. it was beyond my scope to watch for 25 minutes and try to decipher what language he was speaking. i've gone by those chargers in rocky mount. unfortunately, they are too far from the hotel
When somebody driving 1000 miles in a day in a BEV that 99-percenters can afford to buy does NOT make the Youtubes.......then we will have arrived at our destination.
i see the point here, it's just not relevant to most people. but maybe someone will watch, learn and buy
I think the point is, traveling long distances in a Tesla with the proprietary Supercharger system is not an issue in most cases. I think that point IS relevant to most people.
Some are still buying gassers, because they might have to make that 1000 mile driver some day. Likely never, but maybe one day. They also got 4WD because they might have to go off road one day too.
"Most cases" being you can drive 1000 miles and further with no range anxiety in a Tesla and the Supercharger system - regardless of how much time you wish to devote to that 1000 mile drive.
Averaging 3.8 miles / kWh. That's a total range of 243 miles from 90% to 10% of 80kWh. Looks like his charge rate was cut in half by about 60% of charge. Looks like he was generally charging to 60% or so for that reason, which give a range of 60%*80kWh * 3.8 miles/kWh = 182 miles to dead. He did get down to 17 miles of range remaining, which I'd never allow. I'd be willing to charge for 10 minutes every 2 hours and let remaining range drop to 100 miles (33% or so). If I started at 90%, I'd get to around 50% after 2 hours, charge fast for 5 minutes and slow for 5 minutes (I realize it's a ramp, not a switch) and gain about 50 miles of range (around 13kWh = 16% boost to 66%), then have to stop after just a hundred miles and charge for 20 minutes. So, my normal 10 minute stops every two hours would only work for the first two stops. I guess I'd have to leave late (like 8:00am - I usually leave at 6:30am) and plan the second stop to be lunch. But then the second stop after lunch (at around 5pm - too early) would have to be dinner, again at a charging station. I guess I could make that work if there were real restaurants at each charging station. Unfortunately my wife has special dietary needs and we can only eat at about 5% of restaurants so it's rare to find a charging station at a restaurant where we could eat. That would mean a lot of sitting around in the car for 20-30 minutes at a time, which I find intolerable.
He calls it a Mid-Range Model 3, 265 mile EV range. After the recent software upgrade, it may be 278 miles. As for 1,000 mile trips: 1,200 mile - Prius Prime Plus from Tarbox Toyota RI to Huntsville AL, 22 hours. 700 mile each way - BMW i3-REx to and then a return between Huntsville AL and Stillwater OK, 20 hours. 463 mile - BMW i3-REx Charlotte NC to Huntsville AL, 12 hours. I grew up in Oklahoma where long distance driving is assumed. So his YouTube confirmed my expectations of what it takes to drive long distances in a Model 3. Bob Wilson
A coworker of mine got a Model 3 ER 4WD last week. He got the 4WD because we get enough ice and snow here that he claims he often needs 4WD in his truck (the car he traded in to get the Model 3) to get to work. He didn't want the upgraded everything else, but you can't get the 4WD option without it, apparently.
Elon does not release battery pack size now, he prefers to talk about range instead. Anecdotal evidence has resulted in speculation that the long range model 3 has a battery pack of around 72 kWh of usable energy. However, the Tuber said he was driving a mid range model 3 with a smaller battery pack than the long range which results in a total range of 264 miles. I have been below 20% on several situations with no negative impacts. In fact, Tesla recommends charging to 100% and discharging to below 20% every couple of months or more to equalize the battery pack to prolong the life. In our mid-range model 3, we stop every 3 hours or so for 20/25 minutes on long trips. That works for us, but everyone has different priorities. So much depends on your rate of speed, climatic conditions (wind and temperature), and terrain. It is difficult to generalize. Everyone is different. We enjoy our 20 minute stops. It allows us to take a quick snooze, check our email/texts, clean the bugs off the car, and walk around, get some exercise, and talk to Tesla owners at the Superchargers. PLUS Elon says they are going to send an update to allow watching movies on various platforms like Netflix while the car is in "P" park. That is correct, the AWD only comes with the $5K premium interior option to increase the bottom line. That will change in the future.
So a couple of days ago, I ran my Standard Range Plus Model 3, 240 mi EV range, down to 17 miles before arriving at the Athens SuperCharger. Using my dash cam as a data recorder: Unlike a gas gauge, the remaining battery range becomes more accurate as it comes closer to fully discharged. So I encoded the metrics to generate this initial graph: I set my charge limit to 157 mi, the middle of the optimum charge range. For around town and even to Nashville or Birmingham, this is no problem and it softens the charge effects on the battery (i.e., Tesla recommended practice is to limit the normal battery charge.) The little dips were an encoding problem as my dash cam was recording segments of the charge session. After combining the videos into a single file, I was able to get a smoother curve. I exported it to Excel so I could use the trend line function to model: (1) ramp up; (2) power limited, and; (3) charge taper down y = -16.327 x**2 + 172.23 x + 12.731 :: x range 0-5.5 minutes y = 463 :: x range 5.5-11.9 minutes y = 8184x**-1.139 :: x range 13.6-40.3+ Bob Wilson ps. Encoded data using the dash cam, GPS time stamp on the lower left: Code: time min batt mi kW mi/hr +mi 04:45:04 PM 0.0 17 0 0 0 04:45:08 PM 0.1 17 10 44 0 04:46:33 PM 1.5 21 47 216 4 04:48:15 PM 3.2 28 86 395 11 04:48:20 PM 3.3 29 91 414 12 04:50:33 PM 5.5 44 101 463 27 04:50:39 PM 5.6 45 101 463 28 04:50:50 PM 5.8 46 102 463 29 04:50:57 PM 5.9 47 101 463 30 04:53:55 PM 8.8 67 101 463 53 04:53:58 PM 8.9 68 101 463 52 04:54:01 PM 8.9 69 101 463 52 04:54:09 PM 9.1 70 101 462 53 04:55:33 PM 10.5 79 101 463 63 04:55:37 PM 10.5 80 101 463 63 04:55:41 PM 10.6 81 101 462 64 04:56:58 PM 11.9 90 101 463 73 04:58:40 PM 13.6 102 96 440 85 05:00:36 PM 15.5 114 97 357 97 05:04:17 PM 19.2 132 59 268 115 05:06:38 PM 21.6 141 53 244 125 05:10:46 PM 25.7 156 45 204 140 05:11:53 PM 26.8 159 43 195 143 05:11:53 PM 26.8 160 43 195 143 05:15:42 PM 30.6 171 38 174 155 05:20:00 PM 34.9 182 34 154 166 05:20:07 PM 35.0 183 33 152 166 05:25:24 PM 40.3 194 26 118 176 pps. I grew up in Oklahoma were long distance trips were assumed and part of normal life.
I’m a 99%er by income and wealth and heritage. Suspect at least one other person on this thread who recently acquired a Tesla is also not a 1% club member. The last time I drove 1000 miles in a day was about 15 years ago, and don’t plan to do so at any point in the forseeable future. One of the other 99%er’s here, however may do so. Would add that version three of the supercharger will be rolled out soon which effectively doubles the speed of charging in a Model 3. That’s pretty painless for the large majority of people who have the rare requirement to travel such distances.
driving 1,000 miles in a day, or three days, doesn't really mean anything, other than avoiding the fact that superchargers and hotels don't line up well
Best practices: Stay in SuperCharger for only as long as charging and then leave. If you stay on a station after charging is complete, you are subject to non-trivial, idle fees. Usually there is a 5 min grace period. Stay at a hotel/motel with a distribution or J1772 charging place. These L2 chargers can top off the car while you take a well deserved nap. If in a SuperCharger desert, look for a ShorePower, multi-station at a truck stop along the way. In an hour you'll gain ~25-27 miles/hr while charged $1 connect and $1/hr. So $2 first hour and $1 per hour thereafter. There will be hot food, tourists 'junk', free WiFi, or just recline the seats to take a cat nap. Bob Wilson
